Difficulty of the Physics Series courses for Science/Enginee

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the perceived difficulty of the Physics series courses, particularly focusing on the fundamental mechanics and electromagnetism (E&M) courses compared to Modern Physics. Participants explore whether Modern Physics is intentionally made easier for students who may not continue in physics, and the factors contributing to the challenges faced in earlier courses.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that fundamental mechanics and E&M courses are particularly challenging for science and engineering students.
  • It is proposed that by the time students reach Modern Physics, they have developed necessary problem-solving skills, which may reduce perceived difficulty.
  • Others suggest that the difficulty of Modern Physics can vary significantly based on the professor's approach and the complexity of the problems assigned.
  • A participant questions whether Modern Physics is intentionally toned down in difficulty to accommodate non-physics majors, as it is often their last physics course.
  • There is a mention that Modern Physics may focus more on experimental evidence and less on mathematical rigor, potentially making it feel less challenging.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the difficulty of Modern Physics compared to earlier courses, with no consensus on whether it is intentionally made easier or if the perceived ease is due to students' improved skills.

Contextual Notes

Discussion includes assumptions about students' familiarity with problem-solving techniques and the impact of teaching methods on course difficulty. There are unresolved questions regarding the extent to which course difficulty is influenced by the curriculum design for non-physics majors.

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Well known it is that the fundamental mechanics and the fundamental E&M courses of Physics for the science and engineering students are very difficult. Then the next course of this series, "Modern Physics", may seem so much less stressful, and at least a bit or more easier. Is this common? Is the reason that it is the last course of Physics that most students of other majors in sciences will have, and so Modern Physics is made easier intentionally?
 
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Usually it is getting accustomed to the needed problem solving skills (especially vectors) that makes mechanics and E&M so challenging.

By the time one reaches Modern Physics, one has become accustomed to vectors and problem solving. Modern Physics usually has less emphasis on vectors, so the difficulty often depends on how the professor treats different topics and how difficult the problems he selects are. The prof is limited by student unfamiliarity with differential equations when he assigns problems in quantum mechanics.
 
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Dr. Courtney said:
Usually it is getting accustomed to the needed problem solving skills (especially vectors) that makes mechanics and E&M so challenging.

By the time one reaches Modern Physics, one has become accustomed to vectors and problem solving. Modern Physics usually has less emphasis on vectors, so the difficulty often depends on how the professor treats different topics and how difficult the problems he selects are. The prof is limited by student unfamiliarity with differential equations when he assigns problems in quantum mechanics.
Very credible. Still one may wonder if the course #3 in the series (Modern Physics) is toned-down somewhat in difficulty just to help the non-physics majors, because this would usually be their last physics course.
 
Modern Physics usually will usually review the experimental evidence for quantum mechanics which is not math intensive (i.e. descriptive) thus making some of it more of a history course.
 

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