Difficulty to find this limit of trigonometric function

[DDarthVader]

Homework Statement

Hello! I'm having some trouble to find this limit \lim_{x\rightarrow \pi}\frac{senx}{x-\pi } Also, limits like this one \lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi}2{}}\frac{1-senx}{2x-\pi } confuse me a lot!

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The Attempt at a Solution

I don't even know where to start! I tried this but it's problably just waste of time.
My idea was try calculate the area of the third sector of the trigonometric circle. Because to me that -∏ is making my area goes to the third sector, the negative one. Using this idea I've done:
\frac{-senx}{senx}< \frac{-x}{senx}<\frac{-tgx}{senx}
Dividing by senx we got
-1> \frac{senx}{x}>-1
But I'm stuck here. Help please!

And forgive me for my bad english! English is not my native language.

 

[Mark44]

Homework Statement

Hello! I'm having some trouble to find this limit \lim_{x\rightarrow \pi}\frac{senx}{x-\pi }

You can rewrite this as
$$\lim_{x \to \pi}\frac{sin(\pi - x)}{x - \pi}$$

Then, let u = x - $\pi$.

There's a very common limit that will come in handy here.

Also, limits like this one \lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi}2{}}\frac{1-senx}{2x-\pi } confuse me a lot!

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution

I don't even know where to start! I tried this but it's problably just waste of time.
My idea was try calculate the area of the third sector of the trigonometric circle. Because to me that -∏ is making my area goes to the third sector, the negative one. Using this idea I've done:
\frac{-senx}{senx}< \frac{-x}{senx}<\frac{-tgx}{senx}
Dividing by senx we got
-1> \frac{senx}{x}>-1
But I'm stuck here. Help please!

And forgive me for my bad english! English is not my native language.

 

[Mark44]

BTW, in English we call it sine (or sin).

 

[DDarthVader]

BTW, in English we call it sine (or sin).

Sorry, my bad!

Thanks for your answer but I still don't get it! Why can I rewrite my limit as?
\lim_{x\rightarrow \pi } \frac{sin(\pi -x)}{x-\pi}
Well, assuming that it's ok to rewrite the limit as above I think I know what to do next:
\lim_{x\rightarrow \pi } \frac{sin(-(\pi -x))}{x-\pi}
\lim_{x\rightarrow \pi } \frac{-sin(x-\pi)}{x-\pi}
\lim_{x\rightarrow \pi } \frac{-sin(x-\pi)}{x-\pi}=-1

 

[Mark44]

1. Because sin(x) = sin($\pi$ - x)
2. If u = x - $\pi$, then as x approaches $\pi$, u approaches 0. Your limit is $\lim_{u \to 0} \frac{-sin(u)}{u}.$

 

[Mark44]

For the other problem, a similar approach will work, I believe.

 

[DDarthVader]

I just didn't get why sin(x) = sin(π - x). I tried to solve this one by doing what you did \lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi }{2}}\frac{1-sinx}{2x-\pi }
this is result
\lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi }{2}}\frac{1-sinx}{2x-\pi }=\lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi }{2}}\frac{1-sin(\pi -x)}{2x-\pi }=\lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi }{2}}\frac{1+sin(x-\pi )}{2x-\pi }\frac{2}{2}=\lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi }{2}}\frac{2+2sin(x-\pi)}{4x-2\pi}=\lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi }{2}}\frac{2+2sin(x-\pi)}{2(2x-\pi)}=\lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi }{2}}\frac{2}{2}-\frac{1}{1} = 0
This is totally wrong

 

[Mark44]

sin(x) = cos($\pi$/2 - x)

2x - $\pi$ = 2(x - $\pi$/2)

 

[DDarthVader]

I still don't know how to solve \lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi}2{}}\frac{1-senx}{2x-\pi }

 

[Mark44]

Post #8 has some clues. Do you know of any special trig limits?

 

[DDarthVader]

I know about senx/x.
Using your clues:
\lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi }{2}}\frac{1-cos(x-\frac{\pi }{2})}{2(x-\frac{\pi }{2})} = \lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi }{2}} \frac{1-1}{2}=0

 

[Mark44]

You have a mistake. The denominator is approaching 0, not 2.

The other limit I referred to is
$$\lim_{t \to 0}\frac{1 - cos(t)}{t} = 0$$