Diffraction of individual photons

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The discussion revolves around the diffraction of individual photons, specifically how to calculate the expected number of photons detected at a point behind a single slit setup. It explores the relationship between wave amplitude and photon count, addressing concepts related to Fock states and average photon counts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the number of detected photons can be determined by calculating the amplitude of waves emanating from each point in the slit and that the detected count is proportional to the square of this amplitude.
  • Another participant argues that the photon number is not invariant except for Fock states, implying that the exact count may not be achievable in general circumstances.
  • A different participant clarifies that if the discussion is about the average or expected photon count, the initial proposal may hold true.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding Fock states, indicating that they represent situations where the exact photon number is known, but the phase is not, and that creating such states can be challenging.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion reflects some agreement on the concept of average photon counts, but there is a lack of consensus regarding the implications of Fock states and whether the initial proposal applies universally or only under specific conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions and implications of Fock states and the conditions under which the proposed calculations hold true. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

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Hi all,

If we have any setup that causes diffraction with light, such as a single slit, and count the number of photons detected at a certain point behind this slit, is it true that we can determine this count as follows:
1. Consider each point in the slits a new wave source, and calculate for the detected point the amplitude, A, of the sum of all these new waves.
2. The number of detected photons will be proportional to the square of this amplitude, so proportional to A^2.

Thanks in advance
 
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I believe photon number N is not an invariant quantity except for Fock states.
 
If you are talking about the average or expected photon count (not necessarily exact count) then yes, it should be right what you wrote.
 
Thanks for the replies, but which of the two is it ;-)? Zarqon: yes, I mean the average/expected photon count. So who of you two is right? Or both: I'm not sure what Fock states are, so maybe Zarqon considered that to be implicit?
 
Fock state = exact photon number is known (but the phase of the light is not)

chill_factor simply pointed out that you will not be able to get the exact photon number unless you prepare your light in a very particular state (and Fock states are generally difficult to create). And then I continued on that saying, what you wrote is ok if you don't need the exact photon count, but are happy with the average. So there was no disagreement. Hope that clears it up.
 
Ok, got it, thanks!
 

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