Dipole Oscillation İn Electric Field

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The discussion revolves around the oscillation of an electric dipole in an electric field, specifically focusing on determining the angular frequency, denoted as ##ω##. The original poster presents equations related to torque and angular motion, indicating a connection to small oscillations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between torque and angular displacement, with attempts to rewrite the equations of motion. Questions arise about the form of the differential equations and their familiarity, leading to discussions about the characteristics of simple harmonic motion.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in a back-and-forth regarding the mathematical forms of the equations, with some guidance provided on recognizing the structure of simple harmonic motion. There is an acknowledgment of the similarity between the equations presented, but explicit consensus on the final interpretation or application of ##ω## has not been reached.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the transition from the derived equations to the identification of ##ω##, indicating a need for further clarification on the relationship between the variables involved.

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Homework Statement


Electric Dipole makes small oscillation is electric field find its ##ω##

Homework Equations


##τ=pEsinθ##
##τ=I∝##

The Attempt at a Solution


##τ=pEsinθ##
##τ=I∝##
so ##pEsinθ=I∝## which that's in small oscillation becomes,

##pEθ=I∝##
then,
##pEθ=I\frac {dw} {dt}## then

##w=\frac {pE} {I} \int θdt##

I stucked here

(I can't use DE)
 
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What if you rewrote the equation as
$$\frac{d^2 \theta}{dt^2}=-\frac{pE}{I} \theta$$
Does the form look familiar?

On edit: Added negative sign on right side because of restoring torque.
 
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kuruman said:
What if you rewrote the equation as
$$\frac{d^2 \theta}{dt^2}=\frac{pE}{I} \theta$$
Does the form look familiar?

not really
 
Does this look familiar?
$$\frac{d^2 x}{dt^2}=-\frac{k}{m} x$$
Hint: "Not really" is not an option. Think what it could possibly be.
 
I see now..Sure it does.But Hıw can I go from this info to ω
kuruman said:
Does this look familiar?
$$\frac{d^2 x}{dt^2}=-\frac{k}{m} x$$
Hint: "Not really" is not an option. Think what it could possibly be.
 
Arman777 said:
I see now..Sure it does.But Hıw can I go from this info to ω
Note that the two diff eqs are the same, except the symbols are different. They have the same solutions.
Compare the right sides of the two equations. What is ω in the familiar equation? What could ω be in the unfamiliar equation?
 
İt s ##w=\sqrt \frac {pE} {I}## ?
 
Arman777 said:
İt s ##w=\sqrt \frac {pE} {I} ##?
Yep. Remember this and learn to recognize the simple harmonic oscillator equation in all its different disguises. Its general form is

$$\frac{d^2(something)}{d(something ~else)^2}=-(frequency)^2 \times (something)$$
 
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kuruman said:
Yep. Remember this and learn to recognize the simple harmonic oscillator equation in all its different disguises. Its general form is

$$\frac{d^2(something)}{d(something ~else)^2}=-(frequency)^2 \times (something)$$
thanks
 

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