Dipole: Which field lines go to infinity?

In summary: If the surface is symmetric, then the net charge must be zero.This is correct. So the net field at any point is zero.In summary, the electric field at a point is found by vector addition of the fields due to the two charges. If you choose a point somewhere near the negative charge you can do an informal vector addition without calculation and determine in a a couple of seconds the rough direction of the field, which is the direction in which the field line is heading at that point. Then take a point in the direction in which the line is heading and do the same thing. You'll soon see what the lines are doing!
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greypilgrim
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Hi.

An electric dipole field (two opposite point charges separated by some distance) has fields lines from the positive to the negative charge, but also field lines reaching to and coming from infinity. Starting from the positive charge, is there a way to compute the opening angle of the cone that contains all and only the starting directions of field lines that stop at the negative charge?
 
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greypilgrim said:
is there a way to compute the opening angle of the cone


All field lines terminate on the negative charge except for the single line directed exactly away from it.
 
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How so? There's certainly not only one field line connecting the positive and the negative charge.

Or do you mean all do except the ones that start/stop exactly facing away the opposite charge?
 
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greypilgrim said:
Or do you mean all do except the ones that start/stop exactly facing away the opposite charge?
Yes, this is correct.
 
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I briefly had this suspicion, but couldn't imagine that if I had only one charge in the universe and introduced a second opposite one VERY far away it would change the picture that much.

Is there a simple way to see/prove your statement?
 
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This may be too hand-waving for you, but I'd go back to the definition of a field line: a line whose direction at every point along it gives the direction of the (resultant) field at that point. For your dipole, the resultant field strength at a point is found by vector addition of the fields due to the two charges. If you choose a point somewhere near the negative charge you can do an informal vector addition without calculation and determine in a a couple of seconds the rough direction of the field, which is the direction in which the field line is heading at that point. Then take a point in the direction in which the line is heading and do the same thing. You'll soon see what the lines are doing!
 
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Well yeah, that's too hand-wavy. Why is the influence of the second charge enough? Would the same happen if the distance dependence was ##\frac{1}{r^3}##?
 
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greypilgrim said:
I briefly had this suspicion, but couldn't imagine that if I had only one charge in the universe and introduced a second opposite one VERY far away it would change the picture that much.
Well, you cannot have a second charge "VERY far away" when you are asking about the behavior at infinity. At infinity any finite distance will look like an idealized point dipole.
 
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But why is this true for an idealized point dipole?
 
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It's just a silly picture. Dipoles don't have lines coming out from them. Don't worry about it.
 
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greypilgrim said:
But why is this true for an idealized point dipole?

Why can't you apply Gauss's Law here? Enclose the dipole inside a closed Gaussian surface. What is the net charge inside the enclosed volume? And consequently, what does this imply about the net E-field crossing this surface?

Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
Why can't you apply Gauss's Law here? Enclose the dipole inside a closed Gaussian surface. What is the net charge inside the enclosed volume? And consequently, what does this imply about the net E-field crossing this surface?
Well it says only that the positive and the negative part of the surface integral cancel (which they would anyway in this symmetric situation) not that they are zero individually.
 

1. What is a dipole?

A dipole is a type of electromagnetic field that consists of two equal and opposite charges, separated by a short distance. It is commonly represented by a positive and negative charge with a line connecting them.

2. What are field lines?

Field lines are imaginary lines that represent the direction and strength of an electric or magnetic field. They are used to visualize the behavior of electrically charged particles in a given field.

3. Which field lines go to infinity?

In a dipole, the field lines that originate from one charge and terminate on the other charge extend to infinity. These are known as the "infinite field lines".

4. Why do field lines go to infinity in a dipole?

Field lines go to infinity in a dipole because the charges are separated by a distance, and as the distance increases, the strength of the field decreases. Therefore, the field lines need to extend to infinity to represent the decreasing strength of the field.

5. How do I determine the direction of the field lines in a dipole?

The direction of the field lines in a dipole is determined by the direction of the electric field, which is always from positive to negative. Therefore, the field lines will point away from the positive charge and towards the negative charge.

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