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The discussion revolves around the relationship between direct and diffuse solar radiation as the zenith angle changes. Participants explore whether direct radiation increases with zenith angle and the implications of changes in diffuse radiation, particularly in relation to times of day such as dawn and dusk.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether direct radiation increases as the zenith angle increases, noting that diffuse radiation does increase with zenith.
  • There is a proposition that when diffuse radiation increases, direct radiation should decrease, and vice versa, though this is not universally accepted.
  • One participant references the Beer-Lambert law and Lambert's cosine law as potentially relevant to the discussion.
  • Several posts focus on clarifying the source of radiation, specifically identifying it as solar radiation.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the behavior of diffuse radiation during different times of day, particularly whether it increases towards dawn as it does towards dusk.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the relationship between direct and diffuse radiation with respect to zenith angle, and multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of these changes.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the definitions and conditions under which direct and diffuse radiation are discussed, particularly in relation to time of day and zenith angle.

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Does direct radiation increase as the zenith increases? I know the diffuse radiation increases as zenith does, but is it the same for direct
Also is it right to say that when diffuse radiation increase, the direct should decrease and vice versa?

edit: My book says diffuse increases as we move towards the Dusk. But does it also increase as we move towards Dawn?
 
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QuarkDecay said:
Summary: Direct and Diffuse radiations with zenith angle

Does direct radiation increase as the zenith increases?

Radiation from where ?
 
davenn said:
Radiation from where ?
from the sun. Solar
 
davenn said:
Radiation from where ?
And on what?
 
sophiecentaur said:
And on what?
I dunno, ask the OP 😉
 
Ha. I was adding to your question. Not asking you. I should have added some appropriate punctuation, perhaps.
The whole question needs an answer or perhaps a reference.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
Ha. I was adding to your question. Not asking you.

yeah, I realized that but I doubt that the OP did LOL :wink:D
 
QuarkDecay said:
Summary: Direct and Diffuse radiations with zenith angle

Does direct radiation increase as the zenith increases? I know the diffuse radiation increases as zenith does, but is it the same for direct
Also is it right to say that when diffuse radiation increase, the direct should decrease and vice versa?

edit: My book says diffuse increases as we move towards the Dusk. But does it also increase as we move towards Dawn?
Sounds like you are looking for information on the Beer-Lambert law, more specifically the Lambert's cosine law:

groups.csail.mit.edu/.../6.837/F01/Lecture15/lecture15.pdf
 

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