Directional Derivative Solved Question: Explanation Needed Please

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The discussion revolves around finding the directional derivatives of the function f(x, y, z) = x² + 2xyz - yz² at the point (1, 1, 2) in relation to a specified line. The subject area includes multivariable calculus, specifically the concepts of gradients and directional derivatives.

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  • Participants explore how to derive the direction vector from the given line equation. Questions arise about the method for identifying the directional vector and how changes in the line equation affect it.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, seeking clarification on the derivation of the direction vector and its implications. Some have begun to articulate their understanding, while others continue to ask for further explanation and examples.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between the coefficients in the line equation and the resulting direction vector. Participants are also considering variations in the line equation and how that would impact the directional vector.

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1. Question:
Find the directional derivatives of f(x, y, z) = x2+2xyz−yz2 at (1, 1, 2) in the directions parallel to the line (x−1)/2 = y − 1 = (z−2)/-3.



2. Solution:
We have ∇f = (2x + 2yz)i + (2xz - z2)j + (2xy - 2yz)k.

Therefore, ∇f(1, 1, 2) = 6i - 2k.

The given line is parallel to the vector v = (2, 1, -3).

The corresponding unit vectors are u =  ± 1/||v|| and v = (±1/√14)(2, 1, -3).

For the directional derivatives we find f'(1, 1, 2) = ∇f(1, 1, 2)dot(u) = ±18/√14



3. My Questions:
The only part of this that I have no clue about is how do they get the vector v from the information given.

Could someone please explain how they find that direction vector?

I get that since the lines are parallel the direction vector is the same but how does one find the directional vector?


Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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Hi Superdemongob! :smile:
Superdemongob said:
… the line (x−1)/2 = y − 1 = (z−2)/-3.

The given line is parallel to the vector v = (2, 1, -3).

The only part of this that I have no clue about is how do they get the vector v from the information given.

the (x-1) (y-1) and (z-2) are only there to make sure it goes through (1,1,2)

if it went through (0,0,0) instead, the line would be x/2 = y/1 = z/-3,

which is the vector v = (2, 1, -3) ! :smile:
 
I get what you mean but how do you know that that is the directional vector?

Like what is the method for finding out?

If the question had the line 2(x−1) = y − 1 = -3(z−2) then how would the directional vector be different?



Sorry but I'm really trying to understand this.
 
Hi Superdemongob! :smile:
Superdemongob said:
If the question had the line 2(x−1) = y − 1 = -3(z−2) then how would the directional vector be different?

In that case, the line would still go through (1,1,-2),

but the direction would be parallel to the direction 2x = y = -3z,

to which the solution is (x,y,z) = (k/2,k,-k/3) for any value of k,

ie the line containing the vector (1/2,1,-1/3) :wink:
 
I think I finally get it.

You take the inverse of the coefficients and that is your directional vector?
 
yes,

and you can check it works because …

it's the only answer that gives you 1/1 = 1/1 = 1/1 ! :biggrin:
 
thank you so so much.

i'm studying for a test and this helps a LOT.

thanks again.
 

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