Discharge a magnetized bearing

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential magnetization of a steel ball bearing used in a physics rollercoaster project and explores methods to discharge or degauss the bearing if it is indeed magnetized. Participants share various approaches and considerations regarding the effects of magnetism on the ball's performance in the project.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the ball bearing may have become magnetized due to prolonged contact with a strong magnet, as evidenced by its performance in the rollercoaster setup.
  • One participant proposes obtaining a fresh ball bearing as a straightforward solution, while humorously suggesting swapping with another team's bearing.
  • Another participant explains the concept of degaussing, recommending the use of an oscillating magnetic field to reduce the magnetism in the ball bearing.
  • Several participants discuss alternative methods to check for magnetism, including moving the bearing near a computer monitor, although there are warnings against this due to potential damage to the monitor.
  • One participant recounts a personal experience of damaging a monitor due to magnetization, advising caution when testing for magnetism.
  • Another participant shares a method of observing for tearing or using a compass to detect magnetism, indicating a more cautious approach to testing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on how to address the potential magnetization of the ball bearing, with no clear consensus on the best method to discharge it. There are conflicting views on the safety and effectiveness of using a monitor for testing.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various limitations and risks associated with the proposed methods, including the potential for damaging electronic devices and the uncertainty of achieving successful degaussing without specialized equipment.

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WE're usign a steel ball bearing for our physics rollercoaster project, and we happened to store the ball ontop of a decently strong magnet over the course of a few nights, and we believe that the ball is magnetized because the ball slows down at parts of our rollercoaster where there is any steel wiring that ties/supports the tubing.

So basically we need to know how to discharge the ball, if it is at all possible that the ball HAS become magnetized. (We also removed some wires where the ball was stopping, and suddenly it could go much further, so that supports the theory) ... You tell us, can we discahrge it?
 
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Best bet is to get another fresh ball bearing. (Better yet would be to swap it with the best team's ball bearing..., but that would be cheating... forget I said that.)

If that's not an option for some reason, you need to "degauss" the ball bearing. A degaussing field is an oscillating magnetic field that slowly decays over time, until it goes away to zero:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degauss

If you move the ball around near a magnet, rolling it to all angles, and slowly move the ball away from the magnet, still rolling it all around, then you will be able to mostly degauss the ball. It may take some experimentation to get it right. You can test the results by seeing if the ball can pick up any iron filings or light pieces of metal like paper clips, etc.
 
thanks! I will try my best to do that... Obviously since I don't haev amachine it won't be easy, and I can't determine whether it wil produce results but... Anything to get this thing rolling again.
 
Ask around for an old-fashioned TV/radio repair shop. They probably have a deGaussing coil. If not, see if you can find a motor/generator/alternator repair shop; they should have sort of one though they probably call it a "growler". As a last resort, anyone who does bulk erasing of magnetic tapes should have one.

The easy way to check the magnetism is to move the bearing over your computer monitor and see if it messes up the display.
 
TVP45 said:
The easy way to check the magnetism is to move the bearing over your computer monitor and see if it messes up the display.

No, no, no! Do not do that, or you may mess up the display (leaving residual magnetism in the shadow mask). Color monitors have built-in degaussing coils, but they are not generally sized strong enough to remove residual magnetism from having a magnet put up to the monitor screen.

I made that mistake once, and that was enough. It took me a long time with a hand-held degaussing coil to get my TV back to normal. Ack!
 
berkeman said:
No, no, no! Do not do that, or you may mess up the display (leaving residual magnetism in the shadow mask). Color monitors have built-in degaussing coils, but they are not generally sized strong enough to remove residual magnetism from having a magnet put up to the monitor screen.

I made that mistake once, and that was enough. It took me a long time with a hand-held degaussing coil to get my TV back to normal. Ack!

No guts, no glory. What's a little green in the corner of the screen going to matter?
 
TVP45 said:
The easy way to check the magnetism is to move the bearing over a CRT computer monitor at your local computer store and see if it messes up the display.

Fixed that for ya
 
Actually, I used to do this with a coworker's monitor until the day I really did magnetize the mask and had to get a coil to undo it before he found out. Now I just hold suspected magnets somewhere near and watch for tearing (I used to use my compass till I inadvertently switched poles).
 
JLobes said:
Fixed that for ya

:smile:
 

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