Discharging a capacitor through a voltmeter

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The discussion revolves around the discharge behavior of capacitors, particularly comparing a single capacitor to two capacitors in series. Participants explore the implications of resistance, specifically that of a voltmeter, on the discharge rate and voltage levels during the process.

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  • Some participants question whether a single capacitor takes longer to discharge than two capacitors in series and seek explanations for the differences in discharge time and voltage.
  • One participant notes that the time constant of an RC circuit is influenced by both capacitance and resistance, suggesting that changes in these values affect discharge time.
  • Another participant explains that adding capacitors in series results in a lower equivalent capacitance, which could affect discharge time.
  • There is a discussion about the role of a voltmeter's resistance in the discharge process, with some participants asserting that a capacitor discharges through the voltmeter's resistance if no other resistor is present.
  • One participant emphasizes that the discharge rate is proportional to the product of capacitance and resistance, indicating that higher resistance leads to a longer discharge time.

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Participants express differing views on how capacitance and resistance influence discharge rates and voltage levels, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the ideal behavior of voltmeters and the specific resistance values that may vary based on the scale used, which could affect the discharge characteristics.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electronics, particularly those studying capacitor behavior in circuits and the effects of resistance on discharge rates.

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so here are my questions:

Does a single capacitor take longer to discharge than two capacitor is series? Why? Would the voltage also be lower when discharging in series?
In discharging a capacitor, if a resistor is not a part of the circuit, does it discharge through the voltmeter's resistance? <<<please explain this...i'm kinda confused. Would it affect the rate at which it discharges?:confused:
 
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Do you recall the formula for the time constant (discharging time) of a RC circuit? How does the time change as you change capacitance and resistance?
 
chanderjeet said:
so here are my questions:

Does a single capacitor take longer to discharge than two capacitor is series? Why? Would the voltage also be lower when discharging in series?
Look at the expression for caps connected in series? What does it tell you?

In discharging a capacitor, if a resistor is not a part of the circuit, does it discharge through the voltmeter's resistance? <<<please explain this...i'm kinda confused. Would it affect the rate at which it discharges?:confused:

Voltmeters have a resistance which is usually specified as ohms/volt. That means it depends upon the scale used. A capacitor cannot know what is providing the load, only that there is a path of conduction between the plates, so the resistance of a voltmeter is the same as any other resistance connected between the plates.
 
Hi and welcome to PF!
I'll give a little try.
chanderjeet said:
Does a single capacitor take longer to discharge than two capacitor is series? Why?
It depends on their capacitance. Say you have a capacitor whose capacitance is C. It would discharge at about 63% after a time equal to RC where R is the resistor of the circuit. After a time equal to 5RC we usually consider the capacitor to be discharged, although it is not totally discharged (around 99.3%).
Now you put another capacitor with a capacitance worth C in series with the first capacitor. Their capacitance won't add up, instead \frac{1}{C&#039;}=\frac{1}{C}+\frac{1}{C}=\frac{2}{C}\Rightarrow C&#039;=\frac{C}{2}. Hence the capacitance of the circuit is halved by adding another capacitor to the circuit, if it has the same capacitance than the first capacitor.
Would the voltage also be lower when discharging in series?
Use the formula Q=CV to check it out yourself.
In discharging a capacitor, if a resistor is not a part of the circuit, does it discharge through the voltmeter's resistance? <<<please explain this...i'm kinda confused.
What is the resistance of an ideal voltmeter?
 
chanderjeet said:
Does a single capacitor take longer to discharge than two capacitor is series? Why?
That depends on the capacitance of all of these capacitors.
You can have two capacitors in series that exactly equal the capacitance of another capacitor. Depending on their capacitance.
Depending on the capacitance is how fast the capacitor will discharge. The smaller the capacitance, the less force there is holding all of the charge together, meaning it will discharge faster.


Would the voltage also be lower when discharging in series?
That depends on the voltage of the individual capacitors that you happened to put in series. To figure out the total voltage, just add them all up, as if they were batteries.


In discharging a capacitor, if a resistor is not a part of the circuit, does it discharge through the voltmeter's resistance?
Yes.

please explain this...i'm kinda confused. Would it affect the rate at which it discharges?:confused:
The rate at which a capacitor discharges is proportional to the capacitance * resistance.
Higher resistance = Longer discharge rate.
Higher capacitance = Longer discharge rate.

The reason for the longer discharge rate with the resistor is that with a higher resistance the charge that was accumulated in the capacitor cannot come out of the capacitor as quickly.

Hope that answers your questions.
 
Thank you very much...you've all been so helpful. cleared up a lot for me. Thanks
 

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