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The discussion centers on the concept of sound wave cancellation, emphasizing that while interference can occur, true cancellation of sound waves is complex and often not achievable in reality. Participants debate the mathematical versus physical realities of wave interactions, with some arguing that two waves of equal amplitude and opposite phase will not perfectly cancel but instead create standing waves. The conversation touches on the implications of energy conservation and the laws of thermodynamics, asserting that sound waves cannot simply negate each other. There is a clear distinction made between theoretical ideals and practical outcomes in sound wave behavior. Overall, the thread highlights the intricacies of sound wave physics and the challenges in achieving complete cancellation.
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Lapin Dormant said:
Interference isn't the goal, cancellation is, then there is no more noise, but, as it is stated above, it would be diffcult, at best, I already knew that, so now, this thread seems to be getting 'hi-jacked' to this topic, so, as to discourage that, I will cease, now.
Thanks

Lapin Dormant said:
If you would like to start a new thread, the waves need be equal and Opposite each other, in waveform.


When two waves cross each other's path, even if they are identical, they won't just disappear. They'll set up standing waves where they are interfering provided they are identical. Beyond that they will continue on their path. There will be no sound wave cancellation.
 
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That A pressure wave will not cancel, in absolutia I would agree, except in mathematics where 'absolutia' is found, in reality? NOT absolutely, But Mostly.
 
Where does the energy in the sound waves go?
 
Cancels out, In Math its' a Minus one, meeting a Positive one, and the result is Zero, in Reality 0.99999∞+1 ≡ 0.99999∞-1 as Individual Event histories, hence There is a Resultant of One, just how large that one is, is another story altogether.

But, that is Reality.

If a Negative trough meets it's opposite and equal Peak they will (should) cancel out, How 'perfectly-well' that can be done, in reality is 'fun' for some folks.
 
Lapin Dormant said:
Cancels out, In Math its' a Minus one, meeting a Positive one, and the result is Zero, in Reality 0.99999∞+1 ≡ 0.99999∞-1 as Individual Event histories, hence There is a Resultant of One, just how large that one is, is another story altogether.
But, that is Reality.

You're joking right?

Two individual sound waves transport a net positive energy. Their energies can't just cancel out.
 
They are waveforms, they have shape, they can be equated as 'equal and opposite' in 'shape and form' as to cancel.

The reality one is simply quantum physics, how finely it needs be cut as to ensure that everything remains idiosyncratic, and asynchronus, both are Math, so Both show Ideals.

IN Physical reality I have watched it on television, it works, Almost totally.

Is this going to continue on, forever?
 
Lapin Dormant said:
They are waveforms, they have shape, they can be equated as 'equal and opposite' in 'shape and form' as to cancel.

They will not cancel. Try imagining two waves of equal amplitude and frequency with a phase difference of 180 degrees. They will create standing waves where they intersect. At other points, they will simply continue along their path.

What you are suggesting would violate the first law of thermodynamics.

Lapin Dormant said:
The reality one is simply quantum physics, how finely it needs be cut as to ensure that everything remains idiosyncratic, and asynchronus, both are Math, so Both show Ideals.
Quantum Physics has nothing to do with sound waves, atleast not on macroscopic levels.

IN Physical reality I have watched it on television, it works, Almost totally.

TV =/= reality.

Is this going to continue on, forever?

If you want to quit, say so. I like to have the last word though. :smile:
 
O.K. I'll play your game .. .. ..my rules though.

{Oh yes, they are Pressure waves, Not electrical or EMR right?}

To play this game, first you must "Master the Game" by making a Move, to prove you are a Master, though, you must not make any moves.

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Lapin Dormant said:
O.K. I'll play your game .. .. ..my rules though.
{Oh yes, they are Pressure waves, Not electrical or EMR right?}
To play this game, first you must "Master the Game" by making a Move, to prove you are a Master, though, you must not make any moves.
LD
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I don't accept your rules.

Don't post off-topic comments please
 
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