Discovering the Slope of a Secant Line with Examples

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The discussion revolves around finding the slope of a secant line that connects the points P (0,2) and Q (x, 2^x+1) for x ≠ 0. Participants are exploring the mathematical concepts related to slopes and limits within the context of this problem.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the rise over run method to compute the slope and express it in terms of x. There are considerations of using limits to find the slope as x approaches 0, and questions arise about the necessity of limits in this context.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the approach to finding the slope, with some participants suggesting direct computation while others consider the implications of using limits. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the use of limits and the expression of the slope.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about how to formulate the slope expression and whether limits are necessary for this problem. The original poster graphed specific values to understand the slope better, indicating a hands-on approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find the slope of the line that joins P (0,2) and Q (x, 2^x+1) for x ≠0. type the expression using x as a variable.

Homework Equations


Rise over Run?

The Attempt at a Solution


I have a picture of the graph but i don't really know what to do, Please help.
I graphed it at x= -3, -2 and -1 cause that was part 1
Okay so i just had a thought in my mind. So we can use limits to find the slope of the secant line, So would i use The limit of 2^x+1 as x approaches 0. But then the slope would be 1, And how would i write the expression in terms of x.
So for when x=-1 the rise/run is .5/1
x=-2 rise over run is .75/2
and when x=-3 rise over run is .875/3
but now how would i do the expression part?
 

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need to show some work, why not compute the slope as you said rise over run
 
Just rewrite Q (x, 2^x+1) as Q(x)=2^x+1 and find your secant line at that point.
 
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sasuke07 said:

Homework Statement


Find the slope of the line that joins P (0,2) and Q (x, 2^x+1) for x ≠0. type the expression using x as a variable.

Homework Equations


Rise over Run?

The Attempt at a Solution


I have a picture of the graph but i don't really know what to do, Please help.
I graphed it at x= -3, -2 and -1 cause that was part 1
Given two points on a line, do you know how to get the slope?
 
So for when x=-1 the rise/run is .5/1
x=-2 rise over run is .75/2
and when x=-3 rise over run is .875/3
but now how would i do the expression part?
 
sasuke07 said:
So for when x=-1 the rise/run is .5/1
x=-2 rise over run is .75/2
and when x=-3 rise over run is .875/3
but now how would i do the expression part?
Now find the slope for the line passing through points (0,2) and (x, 2x+1 )

Yes, there will be a variable involved.
 
SammyS said:
Now find the slope for the line passing through points (0,2) and (x, 2x+1 )

Yes, there will be a variable involved.

couldn't i just use the limit of 2^x+1 as x approaches 0 to find the slope?
 
sasuke07 said:
couldn't i just use the limit of 2^x+1 as x approaches 0 to find the slope?
The slope of what?
 
the slope of the secant line
 
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SammyS said:
The slope of what?

doesn't the secant line connect those 2 points, so can't i figure out the slope using limits
 
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sasuke07 said:
doesn't the secant line connect those 2 points, so can't i figure out the slope using limits
You don't need to take any limits. You're finding the slope of a line, given two distinct points, one of which has coordinates given in terms of x.
 
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SammyS said:
You don't need to take any limits. You're finding the slope of a line, given two distinct points, one of which has coordinates given in terms of x.

Thanks a lot for the help.
the answer was 2^x-1/x.
 

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