Discuss the World Cup 2010: England vs. USA

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The discussion revolves around the World Cup 2010, specifically focusing on the upcoming match between England and the USA. Participants share their predictions, opinions on officiating, and thoughts on team performances and prospects throughout the tournament.

Discussion Character

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the England vs. USA match, predicting varying outcomes and discussing the chances of both teams advancing from their group.
  • Several posts critique officiating decisions, particularly regarding offside calls, with some arguing the calls were correct while others disagree.
  • Participants share their predictions for multiple matches, with differing views on scores and team performances, particularly regarding the USA and England match.
  • Some participants reflect on the overall quality of refereeing in the tournament, noting specific calls and their implications for the games.
  • There are discussions about the performance of other teams, with some participants expressing skepticism about France's chances and others favoring Argentina as potential winners.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the correctness of officiating calls, with participants divided on their views. Predictions for match outcomes vary widely, indicating multiple competing views on team performances.

Contextual Notes

Participants' predictions are based on personal opinions and interpretations of team form and match conditions, which may not account for all variables influencing game outcomes.

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Football fans interested in World Cup discussions, predictions, and analyses of match officiating and team strategies may find this thread engaging.

  • #241
I'd really love to see a 100-0 for South Africa-France. Since all is lost (say France qualifies, it will then get its head cut by Argentina), if I was Lloris I'd took the chance of being the best scorer in world cups of all time. Score 100 goals against his team... that would be awesome to watch, this would make history. Let's hope the game turn this way and that a goal keeper becomes the best scorer ever in world cups.
 
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  • #242
2-0 already for SA!

The prediction for tomorrow, before I forget:
Slovenia - England (0 - 2)
USA - Algeria (1 - 0)
Ghana - Germany (0 - 1)
Australia - Serbia (0 - 2)
 
  • #243
Borg said:
South Africa-France (3 - 0)

D H said:
:bugeye:

Not disputing this, but wow.

Monique said:
2-0 already for SA!

Da da da dum
Da da da dum...

:biggrin:
 
  • #244
France scored. Arrrgh!
 
  • #245
Slovenia-England(0,2)
USA-Algeria(2,1)
Ghana-Germany(3,1)
Australia-Serbia(1,1)
Big day tomorrow. :bugeye::bugeye:
 
  • #246
Ghana beating Germany 3-1? lol did you mix up the teams :-p
 
  • #247
zomgwtf said:
Ghana beating Germany 3-1? lol did you mix up the teams :-p

Whoops I did mix up the teams.:redface:
Some unexpected things have happened in this world cup so I'll keep it as it is.:smile:
 
  • #248
Oh I do hope Ghana beat Germany... it's not that I dislike the German team, but I like the Australian team more

Chance of that happening is probably 0.01% lol
 
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  • #249
23rd June:

USA - Algeria (2-0)
Slovenia - England (1-2)
Australia - Serbia (0-2)
Ghana - Germany (1-2)
 
  • #250
June 23rd:

USA - Algeria (4 - 0)
Slovenia - England (0 - 3)
Australia - Serbia (1 - 2)
Ghana - Germany (0 - 2)
 
  • #251
USA - Algeria (2-0)
Slovenia - England (1-1)
Australia - Serbia (0-1)
Ghana - Germany (0-3)
 
  • #252
ugh think I'm too late to submit :(

Oh welll
USA - Algeria (2-0)
Slovenia - England (1-2)
Australia - Serbia (1-1)
Ghana - Germany (0-0)

GO BLACKSTARSSSS. Man I really hope they can pull off a tie. All they need to do is concentrate on defense and prevent Germany from scoring. If Serbia ties Australia, which I think is likely, and Ghana loses by 1 point only then Ghana still goes on because Ghana took more points from Serbia.. :-p. Hopefully it comes down to that so I can rub it in all my friends faces haha.
 
  • #253
Oh shoot! Missed the deadline!

Since this doesn't count ...

USA - Algeria (2-0)
Slovenia - England (2-1)
Australia - Serbia (1-0)
Ghana - Germany (0-1)
 
  • #254
Way to go USA! Keep that score! :biggrin:
 
  • #255
Congrats! And that means that I've accumulated a huge amount of points in my work's football pool :biggrin:
 
  • #256
Congrats to the US team, well deserved place in the 1/8 finals.
 
  • #257
This is part of a schedule that Kurdt made for the pub.
 

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  • #258
Evo said:
This is part of a schedule that Kurdt made for the pub.

I'm looking at that schedule as comprising top-left, top-right, bottom-left and bottom-right sets of teams that feed into the two semifinal games. Assuming Germany and Serbia win this afternoon, the US will have landed in what will arguably be the softest of those quadrants. Match 49 is Uruguay v South Korea, and those predicted results will make match 50 be USA v Serbia. We have a somewhat reasonable chance to advance to the semifinals! Thinking we could go further than that is wishful thinking because the bottom left quadrant looks to be nasty. I foresee Netherlands v Italy in match 53 and Brazil v Spain in match 54.
 
  • #259
Just check the calendar: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/calendar.html :smile:
 
  • #260
Can someone explain what puts the USA ahead of England in the standings? They have the same number of points, drew against each other and have the same goal differential (+1). So what measure is used to break the tie and decide that the US plays 2D and England plays 1D?
 
  • #261
USA scored 4 goals in total, England only 2. That actually messed up my prediction, I had England advancing as number 1 and USA as number 2.. oh well.
 
  • #262
Monique said:
USA scored 4 goals in total, England only 2. That actually messed up my prediction, I had England advancing as number 1 and USA as number 2.. oh well.
So that's what they use to break the tie - goals for? That seems to suggest that offense is more important than defense. Oh well. I guess any randomly selected metric is a fair metric so long as all the teams know about it in advance.
 
  • #263
After the number of points accumulated, the goal differential is the first tiebreaker, the total number of goals scored is the next tiebreaker. If that doesn't give an answer, they look at the result between the teams. If that doesn't give an answer they flip a coin :smile:
 
  • #264
D H said:
Assuming Germany and Serbia win this afternoon, the US will have landed in what will arguably be the softest of those quadrants.

Tell me about it: that was meant to be our draw. Still, England looked a bit better today and have some chance of advancing at least beyond the Germany game.
 
  • #265
Thursday:

Slovakia - Italy (0 - 1)
Paraguay - New Zealand (2 - 0)
Denmark - Japan (1 - 0)
Cameroon - Netherlands (0 - 1)
 
  • #266
Slovakia-Italy(0,1)
Paraguay-New Zealand(0,1)
Denmark,Japan(1,1)
Cameroon-Netherlands(1,2)
 
  • #267
GOOD JOB BLACKSTARS. :smile:.

Anyways.

For tomorrow:
Slovakia - Italy (0-1)
Paraguay - New Zealand (1-1)
Denmark - Japan (0-1)
Cameroon - Netherlands (1-2)
 
  • #268
Paraguay - New Zealand (2 - 0)
Slovakia - Italy (0 - 1)
Cameroon - Netherlands (0 - 2)
Denmark - Japan (1 - 1)
 
  • #269
Slovakia - Italy (0 - 1)
Paraguay - New Zealand (2 - 0)
Denmark - Japan (0 - 1)
Cameroon - Netherlands (0 - 3)
 
  • #270
cristo said:
Tell me about it: that was meant to be our draw. Still, England looked a bit better today and have some chance of advancing at least beyond the Germany game.

Argentina, Mexico, Germany, and England

That's the bracket of death.

Actually, the USA might have a tough time against Uruguay. But, surely a South American team has to lose in this tournament eventually. (Won't be tomorrow, though.)
 

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