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The discussion revolves around the World Cup 2010, specifically focusing on the upcoming match between England and the USA. Participants share their predictions, opinions on officiating, and thoughts on team performances and prospects throughout the tournament.

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  • Some participants express excitement about the England vs. USA match, predicting varying outcomes and discussing the chances of both teams advancing from their group.
  • Several posts critique officiating decisions, particularly regarding offside calls, with some arguing the calls were correct while others disagree.
  • Participants share their predictions for multiple matches, with differing views on scores and team performances, particularly regarding the USA and England match.
  • Some participants reflect on the overall quality of refereeing in the tournament, noting specific calls and their implications for the games.
  • There are discussions about the performance of other teams, with some participants expressing skepticism about France's chances and others favoring Argentina as potential winners.

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There is no consensus on the correctness of officiating calls, with participants divided on their views. Predictions for match outcomes vary widely, indicating multiple competing views on team performances.

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Participants' predictions are based on personal opinions and interpretations of team form and match conditions, which may not account for all variables influencing game outcomes.

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  • #181
Slovakia - Paraguay (0 - 1)
Italy - New Zealand (2 - 0)
Brazil - Ivory Coast (1 - 1)
 
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  • #182
Not late today:biggrin:
Slovakia-Paraguay(1,1)
Italy-New zealand(1,2)
Brazil-Ivory Coast(3,0)
 
  • #183
estro said:
Cameron 1 - 1 Denmark

The best game so far in the tournament!

Quite enjoyable to watch yes, much more so than our (Holland) match... We were watching it with a few friends, and we hardly cheered at all during our own match, but we kept cheering during the Cameron-Denmark match, even though we didn't really care who won lol.
We didn't play well at all, just like our first match. Luckily our opponents didn't play very well either, otherwise we wouldn't have gotten through at all!
 
  • #184
Slovakia - Paraguay (1 - 1)
Italy - New Zealand (1 - 0)
Brazil - Ivory Coast (3 - 0)

I don't know about Denmark-Cameroon being the best played, but certainly was exciting - especially that stretch where both teams kept finding creative ways to avoid scoring.:smile:

And the goals they did score were created by the other team's defense. It was as if both teams were playing for the loss.

This game should have ended 3-3.
 
  • #185
BobG said:
I don't know about Denmark-Cameroon being the best played, but certainly was exciting - especially that stretch where both teams kept finding creative ways to avoid scoring.:smile:
Exactly. They had such great chances, on both ends, but just kept missing. As I said, we were cheering for Cameron first when they hit the post like two times in a row and still didn't score, then less than 2 minutes later Denmark were almost scoring and we were cheering for them too as if we wanted them to win. We were asking ourselves "wait, why are we cheering for Denmark when we were cheering for Cameron 5 seconds ago?" but it just happened automatically lol. Very different to all the games I've seen so far of the 'more promising' teams (Spain, Holland, Germany, France, Argentina, etc), most of them were quit boring...
 
  • #186
Slovakia - Paraguay (1-1)
Italy - New Zealand (0-0)
Brasil - Cote d'Ivoire (2-1)
 
  • #187
Slovakia - Paraguay (1-1)
Italy - New Zealand (1-0)
Brazil - Ivory Coast (2-1)

I want Ivory Coast to win :-p though... not much faith from here though haha
 
  • #188
Slovakia - Paraguay (0-1)
Italy - New Zealand (1-0)
Brazil - Ivory Coast (2-1)
 
  • #189
Brazil :approve:
 
  • #190
Slovakia - Paraguay (0-2)

hmmmmm, I would have figured that Slovakia would have done a better job at defending... at least scoring one goal in the process lol.
 
  • #191
A tie in what was supposed to be the most one-sided match so far. Wow. Just wow.
 
  • #192
D H said:
A tie in what was supposed to be the most one-sided match so far. Wow. Just wow.

I think this world cup has proven that there are no more powerhouses for soccer. :-p. We shall see though as the tournament continues.
 
  • #193
Well done kiwis. :-p
 
  • #194
Brazil wins the soap opera audition, but the Ivoirians put up a good show too.
 
  • #195
Gokul43201 said:
Brazil wins the soap opera audition, but the Ivoirians put up a good show too.

Really? I think that most of the fouls that Brazil stayed down for WERE fouls. That's what you're supposed to do in soccer when fouled stay down to draw the foul.

However when KAKA got his second yellow card THAT was ********. Completely.
 
  • #196
What? The Ivorians were terrible losers, did you see how they were aiming for the legs of the Brazilians? And the way they managed to lure Kaka into an undeserved red card was ridiculous.

Tomorrow's prediction:
Portugal - North Korea (2 - 0)
Chile - Switzerland (1 - 0)
Spain - Honduras (2 - 0)
 
  • #197
Brazil were awful. The way they behaved trying to get fouls for nothing was pathetic. Fabiano rolling around all over the pitch for no reason was pathetic. I'm afraid they've lost all of my respect. Then when the Ivory Coast play them at their own game (and there wasa lot more contact than Brazil had) they start complaining. That is no way to advertise the game of football to the world.
 
  • #198
It's a blurring technique for evenness, I'm loving it. hihi. Brazil stills plays much better
 
  • #199
Kurdt said:
Brazil were awful. The way they behaved trying to get fouls for nothing was pathetic. Fabiano rolling around all over the pitch for no reason was pathetic. I'm afraid they've lost all of my respect. Then when the Ivory Coast play them at their own game (and there wasa lot more contact than Brazil had) they start complaining. That is no way to advertise the game of football to the world.

I must have missed most of those. I didn't see any more animation on the ground drawing the foul from Brazil than any other team.
 
  • #200
zomgwtf said:
I must have missed most of those. I didn't see any more animation on the ground drawing the foul from Brazil than any other team.

You obviously weren't paying attention then.
 
  • #201
Kurdt said:
You obviously weren't paying attention then.

Maybe it was you not paying attention to the amount of times that Brazil was legit fouled but the players got back up and back into the game?

I like how the Ivorians display the worst sportsmanship out of the entire tournament, even out of the entire history of the world cup that I've seen and you're on here complaining about how Brazil played. I didn't see Brazil crying on the ground intentionally to get other players cards to get them kicked out. I didn't see Brazil targetting key players from Ivory Coast by tackling their legs extremely roughly.

I have a feeling you're just a HATER. Well KEEP ON HATIN.
EDIT: In fact CBC After the match that was a key point they brought up. How Brazilian players had GOTTEN UP after being fouled and receiving no call just to get back in the game immediately. I feel 100% sure they are more knowledgeable about soccer and have a better reputation to fall back upon than you do. So I won't bother looking for video of this cry-baby Brazilian team, I'll just take their word over yours.
 
  • #202
Anyway for tomorrow:

Portugal vs. North Korea (1-1)
Chile vs. Switzerland (2-0)
Spain vs. Honduras (3-1)
 
  • #203
Mine for tomorrow. A little earlier this time. :rolleyes:

Portugal - North Korea (3-0)
Chile - Switzerland (3-1)
Spain - Honduras (2-0)
 
  • #204
Results, June 18, 19, 20:

Germany - Serbia (0 - 1)
Slovenia - USA (2 - 2)
England - Algeria (0 - 0)

Netherlands - Japan (1 - 0)
Ghana - Australia (1 - 1)
Cameroon - Denmark (1 - 2)

Slovakia - Paraguay (0 - 2)
Italy - New Zealand (1 - 1)
Brazil - Ivory Coast (3 - 1)Scoring Table
Code:
Member      June 18+19+20 Score      Cumulative Score
-----------------------------------------------------
Dadface           1+o+1                   8
D H               0+2+2                   16
Bob               0+2+1                   13
Monique           1+1+2                   13
estro             1+1+1                   12
cristo            1+o+2                   14
zomgwtf           0+1+1                   10
lewdtenant        0+2+o                   3
rootX             0+o+o                   4
Borg              0+o+o                   0

I've dropped all participants with three consecutive no shows. And I changed the convention a little: o is for a no show or a late submission, and 0 is for all bad guesses. Dadface earns an unofficial top spot on this table because the o on his score might have been a 4, had it been submitted on time.
 
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  • #205
zomgwtf said:
Maybe it was you not paying attention to the amount of times that Brazil was legit fouled but the players got back up and back into the game?

I like how the Ivorians display the worst sportsmanship out of the entire tournament, even out of the entire history of the world cup that I've seen and you're on here complaining about how Brazil played. I didn't see Brazil crying on the ground intentionally to get other players cards to get them kicked out. I didn't see Brazil targetting key players from Ivory Coast by tackling their legs extremely roughly.

I have a feeling you're just a HATER. Well KEEP ON HATIN.
EDIT: In fact CBC After the match that was a key point they brought up. How Brazilian players had GOTTEN UP after being fouled and receiving no call just to get back in the game immediately. I feel 100% sure they are more knowledgeable about soccer and have a better reputation to fall back upon than you do. So I won't bother looking for video of this cry-baby Brazilian team, I'll just take their word over yours.

Wow. You like Brazil then.
 
  • #206
zomgwtf said:
Really? I think that most of the fouls that Brazil stayed down for WERE fouls. That's what you're supposed to do in soccer when fouled stay down to draw the foul.

However when KAKA got his second yellow card THAT was ********. Completely.
Did you miss the dive just before that one (I think it was Fabiano) which earned Ivory Coast (Tioté, I think) a yellow card? During the last 10 minutes, it looked like a streetfight turned dive-athon out there (both teams participating, and Dunga not helping matters either).

But in any case, I wasn't implying that Brazil won because of acting - they were clearly the better team out there. Both teams also displayed some extremely sloppy moves during the first half (but at least those were football moves).
 
  • #207
Portugal-N korea(2,1)
Chile-Switzerland(0,0)
Spain-Honduras(2,0)
 
  • #208
Gokul43201 said:
Did you miss the dive just before that one (I think it was Fabiano) which earned Ivory Coast (Tioté, I think) a yellow card? During the last 10 minutes, it looked like a streetfight turned dive-athon out there (both teams participating, and Dunga not helping matters either).

But in any case, I wasn't implying that Brazil won because of acting - they were clearly the better team out there. Both teams also displayed some extremely sloppy moves during the first half (but at least those were football moves).

Yeah I did see that foul. I'm pretty sure it was clear that he was going after his legs and he DID only hit his legs. Unless we're talking about completely different situations...
 
  • #209
Kurdt said:
Wow. You like Brazil then.

No, not really. I'm just saying it how it is, you're just a hater. Nothing more, nothing less.

As well I had wanted Ivory coast to win this game... if you go back and see my post from when I made my predictions you can read that for yourself.
 
  • #210
zomgwtf said:
No, not really. I'm just saying it how it is, you're just a hater. Nothing more, nothing less.

As well I had wanted Ivory coast to win this game... if you go back and see my post from when I made my predictions you can read that for yourself.

I really don't know what's narked you so much. I merely stated the game as I saw it.
 

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