Distance of Closest Approach of Particle to PLanet

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The problem involves a particle with an unknown mass approaching a planet with mass M, characterized by its initial velocity v0 and impact parameter b. The objective is to determine the distance of closest approach of the particle to the planet, starting from fundamental principles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the meaning of "distance of closest approach" and its dependence on the particle's trajectory, initial conditions, and angular momentum. Questions arise regarding the relevance of the impact parameter and the interpretation of velocity as a vector. Some participants suggest clarifying the equations related to effective potential energy.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants have offered guidance on calculating angular momentum and using energy considerations, while others express confusion about the definitions and implications of the terms used in the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a specific section in a textbook regarding hyperbolas, which may provide additional context for solving part of the problem. Participants also note the potential complexity of constants involved in the equations, indicating a need for careful consideration of the problem's setup.

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Homework Statement


A particle, unknown mass, has velocity v0 and impact parameter b. It goes towards a planet, mass M, from very far away. Find from scratch (? I'm not sure why it says from scratch), the distance of closest approach.


Homework Equations


I believe this equation is relevant: Veff(r)=L2/2mr + V(r)


The Attempt at a Solution


I haven't attempted this problem because I have no idea what distance of closest approach is. I looked throughout my book and haven't found anything.
 
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This question really doesn't make sense to me. The "distance of closest approach" is just what it says- the distance a which the particle is closest to the planet as it flies by. Of course, it it hit the planet, that would be 0. But to calculate such a thing you would have to compute its trajectory which would involve knowing not only its initial distance and speed but also it initial direction of travel. when you said "velocity [itex]v_0[/itex], is that a velocity vector? That would help buit then your formula would be adding a number ([itex]L^2/2mr[/itex]) to a vector (V(r)). In any case, I don't see how the "impact parameter" would be relevant if the particle does not "impact" the planet.
 
Maybe i should have written the equation as Ueff(r) = (angular momentum)2/2mr2 + U(r). Where U(r) is the potential energy. I also should have mentioned that part b says to use the section in my book about hyperbolas to show that the distance of closest approach is k/(ε + 1) where k and ε are some ridiculous constants that I'm certain would waste your time if I gave them to you. I'm sorry about that :frown:
 
Draw a line through the center of the planet, parallel to v0. The particle is a distance b from this line initially. Use this information to calculate the angular momentum L of the particle.

Once you have that, you can use energy considerations to figure out what the minimum value of r the particle can achieve is.
 

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