Divergence in spherical coordinates.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the divergence of a vector field expressed in spherical coordinates, specifically examining the vector field \(\vec A=\hat R \frac{k}{R^2}\), where \(k\) is defined as a constant. Participants are verifying the mathematical steps involved in calculating the divergence and addressing potential discrepancies with established solutions in Electrodynamics.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the divergence formula for the vector field and calculates it, arriving at a result of zero.
  • Another participant questions the interpretation of the term \(\partial k/\partial R\), suggesting that if \(k\) is a constant (specifically a unit vector), its derivative with respect to \(R\) should be zero.
  • A third participant clarifies that \(k\) is defined as a constant, supporting the claim that \(\frac{\partial k}{\partial R}\) is indeed zero.
  • A later reply indicates that the divergence calculation is part of a problem in Electrodynamics, where the solution manual states the divergence is not zero, prompting a verification of the calculations presented.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical interpretation of \(k\) as a constant and the resulting derivative being zero. However, there is disagreement regarding the correctness of the divergence result in the context of the Electrodynamics problem, as the solution manual claims it is not zero.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the interpretation of constants and their derivatives in the context of vector calculus in spherical coordinates. The discrepancy with the solution manual suggests unresolved issues regarding the application of the divergence theorem in this scenario.

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I want to verify:
\vec A=\hat R \frac{k}{R^2}\;\hbox{ where k is a constant.}
\nabla\cdot\vec A=\frac{1}{R^2}\frac{\partial (R^2A_R)}{\partial R}+\frac{1}{R\sin\theta}\frac{\partial (A_{\theta}\sin\theta)}{\partial \theta}+\frac{1}{R\sin\theta}\frac{\partial A_{\phi}}{\partial \phi}
\Rightarrow\;\nabla\cdot\vec A=\frac{1}{R^2}\frac{\partial \left(R^2\frac{k}{R^2}\right)}{\partial R}= \frac{1}{R^2}\frac{\partial k}{\partial R}=0
 
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I don't have any problem with that until the last part. What does \partial k/\partial R mean? If "k" is the unit vector in the z direction, it is a constant, and any derivative of it is 0.
 
He defines ##k## as a constant. So ##\frac{\partial k}{\partial R}## is the partial derivative of ##k## with respect to the variable ##R## which is zero, as he gets.
 
Thanks, this is part of a problem in Electrodynamics where the solution manual claimed it is not zero. I just want to verify.

Thanks for the help.
 

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