Divergence of Cross Product Relation

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The discussion focuses on the divergence of the cross product relation involving vector-valued functions E and H. The user initially struggled to prove the relation using the product rule and the equations provided in the homework. However, they discovered that applying the product rule for divergence of cross products, as stated in the equations, allows for a valid proof without decomposing into components. The key takeaway is the importance of leveraging the product rule for vector functions to simplify the proof process.

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Homework Statement


The problem is given in the following photo:
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Actually I did the first proof but I couldn't get the second relation. (Divergence of E cross H).

Homework Equations


They are all given in the photo. (a) (b) and (c).

The Attempt at a Solution


What I tried is to interchange divergence and cross products as it was given in (a). But I couldn't figure out how I am going to get 2 terms at the end. I also tried to apply the relation in (c), but it does not have any cross product, and I think there is no way to use equation in (b). So how can I prove the equation given at the end by using (a) (b) or (c) without decomposing into components or using Einsteins notation.
 
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The product rule, as it appears in (c), is a vector equation. Its ith component is ##\partial_i (fg)=(\partial_i f)g+f\partial_ig##. If you use the definition of the cross product to rewrite the cross products in the problem, you will encounter expressions of the form ##\partial_i (fg)##.

Edit: In this problem, you don't even have to use the definition, since (c) also tells you that if f and g are vector-valued functions, you're allowed to use that ##\partial_i (f\cdot g)=(\partial_i f)\cdot g+f\cdot\partial_ig## and ##\partial_i (f\times g)=(\partial_i f)\times g+f\times\partial_i g##.
 
That is right. I didn't think using that for cross product. After that I can use (a) to prove the given relation.

It seems this was a little bit dummy question.

Thank you very much!
 
Looking at the problem again, I see that the final sentence tells you NOT to use the definition of the cross product to rewrite it in terms of components. But you can still use the comment I added when I edited my previous post.
 

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