Diving Depth for 1/20 Atmospheric Pressure Differential

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The problem involves determining the maximum diving depth for a snorkeler based on a pressure differential of 1/20 atmospheric pressure. The context includes fluid mechanics and the effects of pressure in a diving scenario, specifically considering the density of water and air.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between atmospheric pressure, gauge pressure, and the pressures experienced by the diver. There are attempts to clarify the relevance of atmospheric pressure in the calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on focusing on gauge pressure rather than absolute pressures. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with questions about the initial assumptions and values used in calculations.

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Participants question the source of the atmospheric pressure value used in the calculations and discuss the implications of pressure on breathing through a snorkel at various depths.

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Homework Statement


A diver with a snorkle can handle a pressure differential of 1/20 atmospheric pressure between his the oustide of his lungs and the inside. How deep can he dive? The water's density is 1025 kg/m^3.


Homework Equations


P=P_0+pgh


The Attempt at a Solution


I assumed P_atm = 101325 PA and the density of air is 1.29 kg/m^3.

I came up with P_(outside lungs)-P_(inside lungs)=(1/20)P_atm

P(outside lungs) = P_atm + pgh = 101325 + 1025*9.8*h
P(inside lungs) = P_atm + pgh = 101325 + 1.29*9.8*h

Solving for h I got 0.5 meters... Just seems way to shallow.
 
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Your solution is correct; a diver would not be able to inhale through a snorkel at a depth of more than just a few feet.

By the way, you don't need to concern yourself with the pressure or density of the air. What matters here is the gauge pressure, which is the pressure experienced by the diver over and above that of the air he's trying to breath through the snorkel.

- Warren
 
chroot said:
Your solution is correct; a diver would not be able to inhale through a snorkel at a depth of more than just a few feet.

By the way, you don't need to concern yourself with the pressure or density of the air. What matters here is the gauge pressure, which is the pressure experienced by the diver over and above that of the air he's trying to breath through the snorkel.

- Warren


Just curious, how would you solve it differently then? In my solution the atmospheric pressures cancel out any way, so would your solution be the same as mine?
 
this may sound weird, but how or where did you get "101325" from?
 
louie3006 said:
this may sound weird, but how or where did you get "101325" from?

1 Atm = 101325 Pascals
 
This explains why when I tried to use one of those "noodles" (flotation devices for pools and lakes , mostly for fun not safety) which was about 5 - 6 feet long (Looks like a giant straw) I felt the air being sucked out of me no matter how hard I tried.
 
bpw91284 said:
Just curious, how would you solve it differently then? In my solution the atmospheric pressures cancel out any way, so would your solution be the same as mine?

Yep, the fact that the atmospheric pressure cancels out is evidence that it doesn't matter in the first place. :smile:

- Warren
 

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