DNA & Protein: Similarities in Structure

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the structural similarities between DNA and proteins, exploring their composition and the implications of structural differences. The scope includes conceptual understanding relevant to biology and chemistry at a high school level.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that DNA is made of nucleotides and has a double helical structure, while proteins are composed of amino acids.
  • There is mention of the covalent bonding between the phosphate group and sugar in DNA, and hydrogen bonding between bases.
  • Participants discuss the structural levels of proteins, including primary, secondary, tertiary, and quaternary structures.
  • One participant introduces the idea that small structural changes can lead to significant differences in properties, using ibuprofen as an example.
  • Questions are raised about the effects of changing an amino acid in a protein or altering a base pair in DNA.
  • There is a suggestion that understanding the limited building blocks (20 for proteins and 4 for DNA) can lead to a vast array of complex structures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic structural components of DNA and proteins, but there are varying levels of detail and understanding regarding their similarities and implications of structural changes. The discussion remains somewhat unresolved as participants seek clarification and deeper insights.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the level of detail required for the comparison, indicating a potential range of expectations based on the educational context.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for high school students studying biology or chemistry, particularly those interested in the structural biology of nucleic acids and proteins.

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how are DNA and proteins similar in structure? :confused:
 
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Put this in the Bio forum. You'll get more answers there. Read about DNA and then read about proteins off a website and then compare what you have learned.
 
Stevedye56 said:
Put this in the Bio forum. You'll get more answers there. Read about DNA and then read about proteins off a website and then compare what you have learned.

I think this forum is fine for such homework questions.

how are DNA and proteins similar in structure?

What do you think? Have you looked up any resource? You need to show some work.
 
proteins are made of amino acids? Dna made out of nucleotides..Dna is double stranded?
 
Juwad said:
how are DNA and proteins similar in structure? :confused:

How detailed of an answer are you looking for? (I.e. is this a high school or a University assignment?)

As well, what class is this for? If it's chemistry, then you're looking at how chemical structure determines the structural properties of DNA and proteins. If it's biology, then you'll be looking at how nucleic acids and amino acids link together in particular fashions.

As was already mentioned, your own work so far is prerequisite for further help here.
 
Well, it's a college level course being taught in hs...and it's biology :)
 
Juwad said:
Well, it's a college level course being taught in hs...and it's biology :)

Okay. A high school biology course asking for a structural comparison of DNA and proteins should not be looking for too much.

What do you know about the structure of DNA? What do you know about the structure of protein? How do they compare?
 
Dna is a double helix..made out of polynucleotides. Protiens are made up of amino acids(polymer)..

DNA: the phosphate group bonds with the sugar covalently? and the bases have hydrogen bonds..Protien consists of primary, second, tetiary and quaternary structures?
 
Juwad said:
Dna is a double helix..made out of polynucleotides. Protiens are made up of amino acids(polymer)..

DNA: the phosphate group bonds with the sugar covalently? and the bases have hydrogen bonds..Protien consists of primary, second, tetiary and quaternary structures?
Consider this: When you buy ibuprofen (Advil), half of it is a complete waste. It is a racemic mixture consisting of ibuprofen and its enantiomer, which is a non-superimposable mirror image isomer. The only difference between the two is the orientation of one of the carbons (consider the squiggly line, seen here; one comes toward you [out of the page], and the other goes away from you [into the page]).

What I'm getting at is that a small structural difference can have enormous implications. Consider this with proteins and DNA in mind.
 
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I c..so you used advil as an example.. :P
 
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Juwad said:
I c..so you used advil as an example.. :P
The reason for the example is to show that a very minor change in structure can lead to a very major change in properties.

What would happen if you changed one amino acid in a protein? What would happen if you changed an A-T combo to a C-G combo in a selection of DNA?
 
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oh yea...now i see the code word would be different which would change the base
 
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Juwad said:
oh yea...now i see the code word would be different which would change the base
That's right. Think of it this way: With both protein and DNA, you're working with only 20 and 4 building blocks respectively, and yet you can produce products to the order of hundreds of thousands or millions. If I was your teacher, it is this aspect of comparison I'd be looking for.
 
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thanks geoffjb, are you a teacher or student?
 

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