Do elementary particles experience gravity?

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The discussion centers around whether elementary particles, such as electrons and atoms, experience gravity. It explores both theoretical implications and experimental evidence related to the gravitational interaction of these particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that if large collections of elementary particles experience gravity, then individual particles must also experience it, citing numerous experiments that demonstrate this phenomenon.
  • One participant mentions that while photons and electrons are stable elementary particles, the experimental verification of gravity's effect on individual electrons is complicated due to their low mass and electric charge.
  • Another participant references studies on ultra-cold neutrons in Earth's gravitational field as evidence of gravitational effects on particles.
  • Some participants argue that it would be illogical for elementary particles not to experience gravity, given that humans, composed of these particles, do experience it.
  • There are mentions of theories proposing that certain elementary particles could be linked to dark matter, which also interacts gravitationally.
  • One participant highlights that light is affected by gravity, referencing historical experiments that support this claim.
  • Another participant states that gravity is a distortion of space-time, suggesting that anything existing within this framework is influenced by gravitational effects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some asserting that elementary particles must experience gravity while others question the experimental evidence for individual particles. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on interpretations of experimental results and theoretical frameworks, with unresolved questions regarding the specific conditions under which gravity's effects on elementary particles can be observed.

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For example, do electrons, atoms etc. experience gravity?

Is this proved by experiment?
 
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RobertSpencer said:
For example, do electrons, atoms etc. experience gravity?
If they wouldn't experience gravity then nothing would.
Countless experiments have demonstrated that large collections of elementary particles experience gravity, that is only possible if the individual particles do so as well. Various experiments have verified that matter of different composition experiences gravity in the same strength. All particles fall down at the same rate.

Photons and electrons are the only stable elementary particles that can be observed individually. The deflection of light has been shown in many different settings. For individual electrons this is beyond the current experimental capability as their low mass and their electric charge mean even the tiniest electric or magnetic field exerts a much stronger force on them than gravity.
 
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They don't have to even be ultra-cold. There is the famous 1975 experiment by Colella et al. That used reactor neutrons, so at a temperature of a few hundred kelvin.
 
RobertSpencer said:
For example, do electrons, atoms etc. experience gravity?

Is this proved by experiment?

At some point, you need to think a little bit. WE are all made up of these elementary particles. WE all "experience" gravity, don't we?

So don't you think that it would be odd if these particles are not affected by gravity, and yet, WE, who are made up of these particles, are affected by it?

Any entity with mass interacts with gravity, no matter how small the mass is. In fact, there are theories that propose these small, elementary particles (such as sterile neutrinos) might be responsible for Dark Matter - which makes up MORE than all the visible matter combined - that can affect motion of stars and galaxies via their gravitational forces alone!

So you'd better believe that they "experience gravity".

Zz.
 
Gravity is a distortion of space-time. Anything that exists in space-time is affected by the distortion.
 

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