Do graduate schools (Physics) care if youre a 5th year undergrad?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around whether graduate schools in physics have a negative perception of applicants who are fifth-year undergraduates. Participants explore the implications of extended undergraduate study, including personal circumstances and academic performance.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that there is no general truth to the idea that graduate schools dislike fifth-year undergraduates.
  • One participant notes that circumstances matter; for instance, taking five years due to personal challenges may reflect poorly, while doing so for valid reasons like work or additional coursework may not.
  • Another participant highlights the challenges faced by students in California, where course availability can extend graduation times, suggesting that context is important.
  • Some argue that a solid academic record over five years is preferable to rushing through a four-year program with weaker performance.
  • A later reply expresses a belief that completion time is less significant compared to grades, GRE scores, and relevant coursework.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the impact of being a fifth-year undergraduate on graduate school applications.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors that could influence perceptions, such as personal circumstances, academic performance, and institutional challenges, but do not resolve how these factors weigh against each other.

Who May Find This Useful

Undergraduate students considering graduate school in physics, particularly those who may take longer than the traditional four years to complete their degree.

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Title says it all. I've heard some schools don't like 5th year undergrads, is there a general truth to this from what you guys have heard, if you ever have?

Thanks ^^
 
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I should also mention I'm a double major.
 
There's no truth to it that I'm aware of.

Of course, a lot can depend on circumstances. If you took 5 years to complete your undergrad because you flunked out or had to repeat a few courses, that's not going to look good on your application. If you took 5 years because you had to work full time to afford it, took more than a standard number of courses, or did a co-op program, it's unlikely to have any bearing on the application.
 
Getting a degree in 4 years is starting to sound quaint. Here in California, students at state schools can't get the courses they need to graduate in 4 years, simply due to the state budget crisis. It kills me when students work 40 hours a week and take 22 units, on the theory that they "can't be in school forever" -- then they fail half their classes and have to repeat them.
 
nasijen said:
Title says it all. I've heard some schools don't like 5th year undergrads, is there a general truth to this from what you guys have heard, if you ever have?

I don't think graduate schools care, and it's far better to do it in 5 years with a solid degree then try to rush things in 4 years and then have a less than stellar application.
 
Thanks for the replies everyone. I guess I've heard a load of bullocks then. I figured completion time doesn't matter as much as how your grades, GRE, which courses you've taken (grad courses perhaps), etc.
 

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