Do Neutral Atoms Emit Radiation When Accelerated?

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The discussion centers on whether neutral atoms emit radiation when accelerated, exploring the implications of charge dynamics and the behavior of neutral particles like neutrons. Participants examine theoretical scenarios, the nature of radiation, and the conditions under which radiation may or may not occur.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether a neutral atom can radiate when accelerated, given that it contains charged particles (electrons and protons) that could theoretically radiate.
  • Others propose that the radiation from positive and negative charges within a neutral atom may cancel out, leading to no net radiation.
  • There is a suggestion that a neutral atom could be accelerated using a non-uniform electric field, which could induce a dipole moment.
  • One participant argues that a neutral atom with a magnetic dipole moment or higher moments could radiate when accelerated, while a simple atom like helium may not radiate due to the lack of changes in electric or magnetic fields.
  • Questions are raised about the acceleration of neutrons and whether they can radiate, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the energy dynamics involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether neutral atoms radiate upon acceleration, with some supporting the idea of cancellation of radiation and others suggesting that certain conditions may lead to radiation. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of the problem, including the dependence on the specific properties of the atoms involved, such as dipole moments, and the conditions under which acceleration occurs. There are also unresolved questions regarding the mechanisms of radiation and energy transfer in neutral particles.

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If charge radiates on acceleration,what would happen if we accelerate a neutral atom..will this radiate or not? this neutral atom also has electrons and protons which are charged so they should radiate but as a whole this neutral atom should not radiate?both are contradictory..

is this problem only with neutral atom or also with neutrally charged particle neutron? neutron shouldn't radiate since it is neutral but what it is doing with the energy got from acceleration? charged particle radiates from the energy of acceleration so neutron will also get the same energy then why it is not radiating?
 
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spidey said:
If charge radiates on acceleration,what would happen if we accelerate a neutral atom..will this radiate or not?
How do you propose to accelerate a neutral atom? I suppose that is somewhat of a distracting/irrelevant issue, because I suppose you could have just as well asked about two concentric insulators, one with charge +Q and the other with charge -Q, so that the total charge is zero. I must say that I don't know the answer to this, but I would guess that the radiation from the +Q would exactly cancel the radiation from the -Q, so that the result would be zero radiation. You should note that radiation is a far-field phenomenon.



spidey said:
... as a whole this neutral atom should not radiate?
Why do you say that? Do you believe that a dipole or loop antenna should not radiate?



spidey said:
neutron shouldn't radiate since it is neutral ...
Again, why do you say that?



spidey said:
... what it is doing with the energy got from acceleration?
OK. Now I can ask the fair question: how do you accelerate a neutron? And, BTW, acceleration does not always change a particle's energy. For example, a magnetic field accelerates a charged particle in a direction transverse to its direction of motion, so a magnetic field alone does not change the energy of a charged particle. Furthermore, if a particle does receive energy by virtue of acceleration, this is usually accounted for in the form of kinetic energy, radiation being a loss term.
 
turin said:
I must say that I don't know the answer to this, but I would guess that the radiation from the +Q would exactly cancel the radiation from the -Q, so that the result would be zero radiation.

I agree, with both the "I don't know" part and also I suspect the radiated electric fields would simply cancel as turin says here.

FYI, a neutral atom could be accelerated with a non-uniform electric field. The induced dipole would be attracted toward regions of higher E-field magnitude.
 
First, a neutral atom may have a magnetic dipole moment or a higher moment (such as an electric quadrupole moment). If I accelerate one of these atoms (by smacking it with a baseball bat - nothing esoteric required) it will certainly radiate.

Now, suppose we are moving something that doesn't have any of these moments - helium, for example. It will not radiate. One reason is because there is no change to the electric or magnetic fields as the atom is accelerated - so how can it radiate? The other is, as said before, that the radiation from the positive charges interferes destructively with the radiation from the negative charges.

If you look closely, you'll see that these are the same thing, just applied at a different order in the calculation. In one case you sum up the charges first and then see how much it radiates and in the other you see how much each charge radiates and then sum.
 

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