Do you need to use the quadratic formula to solve for the unkown?

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The discussion centers on the validity of using alternative methods to solve the quadratic equation Ax + Bx^2 + C = 0. While one participant suggests manipulating the equation to isolate x, others clarify that this approach does not yield correct solutions unless C equals zero. The quadratic formula is emphasized as necessary for finding both solutions of x, as it accounts for the nature of quadratic equations. The importance of factoring and understanding the properties of equations is also highlighted, reinforcing that simply rearranging terms does not suffice. Ultimately, the consensus is that the quadratic formula remains essential for accurately solving the equation.
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Lets say you have Ax + Bx^2 + C = 0

Usually I would use the Quadratic formula in this situation.

But what if you do this
x( A + Bx ) + C = 0
x( A + Bx ) = -C

Couldn't you then say
x = -C
and
A + Bx = -C
x = (-C - A) / B

?
 
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yougene said:

Homework Statement


Lets say you have Ax + Bx^2 + C = 0

Usually I would use the Quadratic formula in this situation.

But what if you do this
x( A + Bx ) + C = 0
x( A + Bx ) = -C

Couldn't you then say
x = -C
and
A + Bx = -C
x = (-C - A) / B

?

Well you could say that, but it won't be correct. If you sub x=-C you will get

-C(A-BC) = -AC+BC2

and that is not the right side of the equation in red.
 
No. Factoring takes advantage of the property that if ab=0, then either a=0 or b =0. Furthermore, your answers don't solve the quadratic. Just plug them in.
 
And to extend what Random Variable said, if you had ab = 1, then all you know about a and b is that they are reciprocals of one another. They could be 1 and 1, -1 and -1, 2 and 1/2, \sqrt{2} and 1/\sqrt{2}, or any other of an infinite number of pairs of numbers that multiply to 1.
 
Thanks, this is all coming back now. :P

So then my equation would work only if C = 0.


@Mark44

So if my C = -1 then saying
Ax^2 + Bx = 1
would be a valid way to solve the equation?

Or are you saying
Ax^2 + Bx + C = 1
would be valid to solve for?
 
yougene said:
Couldn't you then say
x = -C
and
A + Bx = -C

No. Why do you think that? All that is telling you is that x and (A+Bx) are always -C when multiplied together if x is a solution to the quadratic formula. That doesn't tell you anything about what x actually is. Remember, the quadratic formula has 2 solutions so you have to get 2 numbers out of it for x.
 
yougene said:
So then my equation would work only if C = 0.

I believe that would be correct. If you had
x (A+Bx) = 0

then either (x) or (A+Bx) must be zero, or both. The two solutions would be
x =0 and
x=-A/B
 
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