Does a Falling Object Ever Truly Reach Terminal Velocity?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of terminal velocity and whether it is ever truly reached by a falling object. It is clarified that terminal velocity is indeed reached when the object's speed becomes constant, despite some arguing that it may only be approached asymptotically due to varying factors like orientation and air resistance. The conversation highlights that in an ideal scenario, a stable object, such as a parachute, can reach and maintain terminal velocity. There is a consensus that while terminal velocity can fluctuate in real-world conditions, it can be defined and achieved under perfect circumstances. Overall, the debate emphasizes the complexities of defining terminal velocity in practical versus theoretical contexts.
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Today in physics we talked about terminal velocity. This got me thinking. As air resistance acts on a falling object, the acceleration of that object will decrease. I was wondering if terminal velocity is only approached asymptotically and never technically reached. Please explain this. Thanks.
 
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Your question is a reasonable one, but no, terminal velocity IS reached. If the speed does not become constant, you have not reached terminal velocity. That's what the term MEANS. "Terminal" means "final" and is a value, not an asymptote.
 
Tilting my hat to phinds' answer, I guess that depends on how you look at it. Terminal velocity is not a fixed target, since it's dependent on many changing factors, such as orientation of the falling object.
 
DaveC426913 said:
You are correct.
Moreso, it is not even a fixed target, since it's dependent on many changing factors, such as orientation of the falling object.
I see we disagree. I think you need to check the definition.
 
But if you graphed the velocity, it would curve to horizontal. Either midway along this curve it would suddenly flat line, or it would approach a number but never quite get there.
 
Also i meant this more as a conceptual question. In practice I am sure it would reach a number.
 
phinds said:
I see we disagree.
And thus I have edited my response to account for that. :)

phinds said:
I think you need to check the definition.
I think you're looking at it simplistically. Terminal velocity can't even be well-defined, since it's not stable.
 
Peter Frame said:
But if you graphed the velocity, it would curve to horizontal. Either midway along this curve it would suddenly flat line, or it would approach a number but never quite get there.
It would approach a value and then wander up and down around as the orientation of the falling object changed from moment to moment.
 
So your saying that in a perfect experiment with no air current, and no wobbling object, it would approach it? This is what makes a lot of scene to me.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
I think you're looking at it simplistically. Terminal velocity can't even be well-defined, since it's not stable.
Yes, I keep telling you, I am VERY simple-minded ;)
 
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DaveC426913 said:
It would approach a value and then wander up and down around as the orientation of the falling object changed from moment to moment.
I agree.
 
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Peter Frame said:
So your saying that in a perfect experiment with no air current, and no wobbling object, it would approach it? This is what makes a lot of scene to me.
No, in an ideal situation, it would reach it and stay there instead of reaching it and then, as Dave says, wobbling around a bit faster and a bit slower.
 
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Peter Frame said:
So your saying that in a perfect experiment with no air current, and no wobbling object, it would approach it? This is what makes a lot of scene to me.

[EDIT Sorry, I did not see that you said an ideal experiment.]

Yes, so, to do so, you use an object that is stable under descent. Such as, say, a parachute.

A parachute, assuming its oscillation is kept down, reaches its terminal velocity quite quickly, and then its velocity will stick very close to that thereafter.
 
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Thanks
 
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DaveC426913 said:
[EDIT Sorry, I did not see that you said an ideal experiment.]

Yes, so, to do so, you use an object that is stable under descent. Such as, say, a parachute.

A parachute, assuming its oscillation is kept down, reaches its terminal velocity quite quickly, and then its velocity will stick very close to that thereafter.
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