Does a scale *display* weight or mass?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of measurements displayed by bathroom scales, specifically whether they represent weight (a force) or mass. Participants explore the implications of using scales in different gravitational environments, such as on the moon, and the assumptions made by scales calibrated for Earth's gravity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that scales measure weight as a force through the displacement of a spring, while others suggest that the displayed numbers are adjusted to represent mass by accounting for Earth's gravitational acceleration.
  • One participant notes that scales calibrated for a specific gravitational acceleration (g) will yield different readings in varying locations on Earth or on the moon, indicating that they measure weight rather than mass.
  • Another participant proposes that a scale could theoretically be designed to measure and display mass directly, potentially through methods like counting atoms or using a vibrating mass system.
  • There is a mention of the standard gravitational acceleration value (9.80665 m/s²) that scales assume when providing mass readings.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether scales display weight or mass, with no consensus reached. Some argue for the interpretation of displayed values as mass, while others maintain that they represent weight.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that scales are typically calibrated for a specific value of gravitational acceleration, which can lead to variations in readings based on location. There are unresolved questions about the implications of these calibrations and the potential for scales to measure mass directly.

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I know that scales measure weight (a force) via displacement of a spring. I also know the difference between a force and a mass. I know that, on the moon, the numbers on a scale might be different (depending on the answer to this question). I've read through the few threads on this matter here, and there isn't a clear answer to my question:

What are the numbers that a bathroom scale actually displays? Are the numbers displayed a force, or does the scale implicitly assume it is on Earth, account for this—and thus display a mass?

 
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There's been quite a few threads on this subject over the years
have a look down at the bottom of your thread page and you will see some of the similarly titled threads
have a look through and see if they answer your questions ... if there is still anything unclear
then ask specific questions :smile:

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The scale measures force, that is weight. But instead of displaying force or weight, the numbers you see are weight divided by a factor, the downwards accelaration on the Earth's surface, so as to display mass.

If you used such a scale on the moon, the values would be incorrect, although you could easily make the correction by simply multiplying the correct factor.
 
AmagicalFishy said:
What are the numbers that a bathroom scale actually displays?
Is there no unit displayed or written on your scale?
 
AmagicalFishy said:
I know that scales measure weight (a force) via displacement of a spring. I also know the difference between a force and a mass. I know that, on the moon, the numbers on a scale might be different (depending on the answer to this question). I've read through the few threads on this matter here, and there isn't a clear answer to my question:

What are the numbers that a bathroom scale actually displays? Are the numbers displayed a force, or does the scale implicitly assume it is on Earth, account for this—and thus display a mass?

Most scales are calibrated for one value of g. So if you put a known mass on a scale it will read slightly differently at different places on the Earth (eg near a mountain where g is very slightly higher or on the moon where it's lower). That demonstrates they are measuring and displaying weight not mass.

If you wanted them to measure weight but display mass they would have to automatically correct for variations in g.

Edit; You could make one that measured and displayed mass - for example by counting atoms or perhaps by using a horizontal spring and vibrating the mass.
 
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Scales assume a local g level of 9.80665 (m/s)/s, the result is mass (kg) and weight (kgf) provided your at the Earth's surface radius.
 

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