Does any lattice or lattice shape has a periodic boundary condition?

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The discussion revolves around the conditions and construction of periodic boundary conditions (PBC) for various lattice shapes, particularly in the context of simulating an Ising model. Participants explore how neighbors are defined under PBC and the implications of lattice geometry on these definitions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether any lattice shape can have a PBC and seeks clarification on constructing PBC for specific lattice configurations.
  • Another participant suggests considering the joining of adjacent versus opposite edges and proposes a method of rotating the lattice to better understand PBC.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the direction of PBC relative to boundary edges and whether all PBCs align with these edges.
  • One participant indicates a lack of understanding of the problem and highlights the complexity introduced by corner neighbors in the lattice structure.
  • A later reply discusses constructing a lattice from a square lattice by connecting next-nearest-neighbor sites and raises a question about neighbor relationships under PBC for a specific lattice configuration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the conditions for constructing PBC or the implications of lattice geometry on neighbor definitions. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding the definitions of neighbors under PBC, particularly at the boundaries and corners of the lattice. There are also unresolved questions about the specific configurations and how they affect the simulation of the Ising model.

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If not, then what are the conditions for us to construct a periodic boundary condition(PBC)?
If so, then please help me construct a PBC for the lattice shape in the attachments.

I want to ask that what lattice site m's left neighbor is and what lattice site i's down neighbor is.From the picture, both m's left and i's down neighbor is the BLUE site, but in the PBC, the neighbors are GREEN and RED correspondingly (right?). However, the GREEN site and the RED site are impossible to be the same site in the PBC(right?). So I'm confused with it.

thanks a lot
 

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Are you joining adjacent edges or opposite edges ? Try rotating the lattice through 45 deg, working out the PBC and then rotating back.
 
Thank you very much for your help.

Do you mean that the direction of the PBC is along the direction of the BOUNDARY EDGE( the dotted GREEN line showed in the attachment)? Then both m's left and i's down neighbor is the BLUE site (K) on the opposite edge.If so, it seems to say that all PBCs are along the direction of the BOUNDARY EDGES?
 

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I don't think I understand the problem. Have a look at the picture, I have shown a point in solid yellow and its neighbours in outlines yellow. The corners will have widely 'separated' neighbours.
 

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thanks a lot!
Mentz114 said:
I don't think I understand the problem. Have a look at the picture, I have shown a point in solid yellow and its neighbours in outlines yellow. The corners will have widely 'separated' neighbours.

For the above lattice shape, it can be constructed from the square lattice by connecting the next-nearest-neighbor sites.And each site's neighbors are easy to find by the original square lattice.

But I find that it is just a spatial case. And now I want to simulate a Ising model on the following lattice, whose boundary edges are the lines connecting one of the next-next-nearest-neighbors on the square lattice(dotted lines shows). The crossing points of the solid lines will be placed spins. Under the PBC, what the RED site's right and down neighbor will be?
 

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