Does anyone have any up to date info on Thesis inclusions?

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The discussion centers on the inclusion of published papers in PhD theses, particularly in the context of UK academic institutions. Participants explore the current practices, potential changes in regulations, and the implications of self-plagiarism when incorporating previously published work into a thesis. The conversation touches on the need for clarity regarding institutional policies and the role of academic supervisors in this process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to include published papers in their thesis without modification, raising concerns about potential plagiarism of their own work.
  • Another participant suggests that the individual should consult their PhD advisor or the institution's guidelines for definitive information rather than relying on peer opinions.
  • A later reply indicates that there are no uniform UK-wide rules regarding thesis format, emphasizing that practices vary significantly between universities.
  • One participant notes that, based on their experience, it is generally not acceptable to include published papers in a thesis at UK universities, contrasting this with practices in other countries.
  • Concerns are raised about the length and complexity of British theses, which are often lengthy due to the requirement for comprehensive original content.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the inclusion of published papers in PhD theses, with some arguing it is generally not permitted while others highlight the variability of institutional policies. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the current standards across different universities.

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Limitations include the lack of specific institutional guidelines referenced in the discussion and the dependence on individual university policies regarding thesis formatting and requirements.

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Ideally I would like to simply place any papers I have published straight into my PhD thesis with no adjustment. Then add a couple or more chapters, methodology, conclusions, some overview type discussion etc etc

But some of my PhD colleagues seem to think that the system has changed and that this is no longer possible and I would have to re-write all my published papers due to the fact it would be plagiarising my own work !

I keep reading different things, some say its okay, some say not, anyone have any ideas on the present methods of thesis "marking" or does it simply depend on the individual examiner?

Thanks for any advice

(UK PhD student)
 
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rwooduk said:
Ideally I would like to simply place any papers I have published straight into my PhD thesis with no adjustment. Then add a couple or more chapters, methodology, conclusions, some overview type discussion etc etc

But some of my PhD colleagues seem to think that the system has changed and that this is no longer possible and I would have to re-write all my published papers due to the fact it would be plagiarising my own work !

I keep reading different things, some say its okay, some say not, anyone have any ideas on the present methods of thesis "marking" or does it simply depend on the individual examiner?

Thanks for any advice

(UK PhD student)

Why aren't you asking this to your PhD advisor/Supervisor?

Doesn't your school have someone in charge of thesis format and requirement? Rather than rely on hearsay from "PhD colleagues", you must go to the actual source and get the exact language and policy of your school. And I will be surprised if your Advisor does not have the current info on such a thing.

In the end, it is your PhD supervisor that has the FINAL say in anything. So why aren't you asking him/her?

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ZapperZ said:
Why aren't you asking this to your PhD advisor/Supervisor?

Doesn't your school have someone in charge of thesis format and requirement? Rather than rely on hearsay from "PhD colleagues", you must go to the actual source and get the exact language and policy of your school. And I will be surprised if your Advisor does not have the current info on such a thing.

In the end, it is your PhD supervisor that has the FINAL say in anything. So why aren't you asking him/her?

Zz.

Hmm I thought there may be a general rule across the UK that someone on here may have been aware of, but seeing as it's institution dependent I will surely check with my supervisor, thanks !
 
rwooduk said:
Hmm I thought there may be a general rule across the UK that someone on here may have been aware of, but seeing as it's institution dependent I will surely check with my supervisor, thanks !

There are basically no UK wide rules for ANYTHING that has to do with the format for a PhD thesis or even the viva; the systems vary quite a lot between universities.
That said, the norm is -as far as I am aware- NOT to include any papers at all in a thesis. This is certainly the case for all the UK universities I am familiar with.
(this is very different from the system in many other countries where a thesis can in some cases just be a collection of papers with an introduction and in-depth discussion).
This is also the reason why a British thesis is generally very long (~70-100 pages) and takes ages to write :H (I am saying this as a someone who supervises students and who has to read all the drafts...)
 

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