Does Changing the Moon's Volume Affect Its Revolution?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of changing the moon's volume while keeping its mass constant, specifically exploring whether this alteration would affect its revolution around the Earth. The scope includes theoretical considerations of gravitational attraction and rotational dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether expanding the moon's volume while maintaining its mass would impact its revolution, expressing uncertainty about the implications.
  • Another participant suggests that for perfect spheres, gravitational attraction remains unchanged, implying that the orbit would not be affected. They reference the shell theorem to support this claim.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of tidal locking, noting that it may depend on the mass distribution within the moon and its interaction with Earth, indicating that a different radius could influence this effect.
  • There is a mention of the near side of the moon being slightly more massive than the far side, which could relate to the discussion on tidal locking.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of changing the moon's volume. While some argue that gravitational attraction would remain the same, others introduce the complexity of rotational effects and mass distribution, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about the moon's shape and mass distribution, as well as the potential effects of tidal locking, which are not fully explored in the discussion.

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Let us consider the revolution of the moon around the Earth. If the moon was expanded like a balloon so that it had the same mass but different volume (and therefore lower density), would it effect the moon's revolution in any way?
I probably sound like a retard right now...:confused:
 
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For perfect spheres there wouldn't be a difference in gravitational attraction so the orbit would be the same I suppose.

It's easy to show that the potential of a spherical object is the same as the one of a point. I just did a calculation and apparently even the force on a homogeneous sphere due to a potential is the same as the force on a point particle with the same mass at the center of the sphere. So the gravitational attraction between spheres is the same as between points.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_theorem

But somehow there are also rotational effects which cause the moon to sync with the earth. Not exactly sure how that works, but a different radius would make a difference.
 
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Thanks a lot. :)
 
Gerenuk said:
But somehow there are also rotational effects which cause the moon to sync with the earth. Not exactly sure how that works, but a different radius would make a difference.

The effect is called tide-lock. I'm certainly no expert, but it seems to me that it depends upon the distribution of mass within one or both of the component bodies. That would, for instance, imply that the near side of the moon is slightly more massive than the far side.
Best that one of the Astronomy or Astrophysics experts elaborate. You can also Google tidal lockage.
 

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