Does DC or AC work best for charging most industrial batteries?

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the efficiency of charging industrial rechargeable batteries using alternating current (AC) versus direct current (DC), particularly in the context of variable frequency AC sources. Participants explore the implications of battery chemistry, charging circuits, and the suitability of different power sources for charging applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether industrial rechargeable batteries can be efficiently charged with variable frequency AC, suggesting uncertainty about the effectiveness compared to DC.
  • Another participant asserts that batteries are DC devices and emphasizes that charging characteristics depend on battery chemistry, prompting a request for clarification on the specific battery type in question.
  • A different viewpoint highlights the necessity of a charging circuit that matches the battery type and power source, indicating that the power source does not directly equate to the battery type.
  • One participant notes the ease of converting AC to DC and raises concerns about potential efficiency losses in a dynamic system when extracting energy.
  • Another participant reiterates the importance of using a charger designed for the specific characteristics of the power source, suggesting that a specialized charger would be more effective for variable frequency AC.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the efficiency of charging batteries with variable frequency AC versus DC. There is no consensus on the best approach, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal charging method.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the influence of battery chemistry and the design of charging circuits, indicating that these factors may affect the charging process but do not provide definitive resolutions to the questions raised.

narayan821
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
TL;DR
I have a source of electricity that's alternating but at variable frequencies. So an asynchronous alternating current of sorts if you will. Can industrial rechargeable batteries be charged like this efficiently? Or would DC current work best? Or normal AC?
I have a source of electricity that's alternating but at variable frequencies. So an asynchronous alternating current of sorts if you will. Can industrial rechargeable batteries be charged like this efficiently? Or would DC current work best? Or normal AC?
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
Batteries are DC devices. They are charged with DC voltages and currents, but the characteristics and levels of the charging voltages and currents depend on the battery chemistry. What chemistry are these batteries? How have they been recharged in the past?

EDIT/ADD -- Check this website out for much more information on batteries...

https://batteryuniversity.com/
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: DaveE
Batteries require a circuit to control their charging. Some types can have simple circuits, some quite complex. The output of the charging circuit depends on the battery type, and application. The charging circuit requires power to operate, so the input to the charger is determined by what kind of power source the charger was designed for.

Your question equates the battery type to the power source. It doesn't work that way. You will select a charger that can accept the power source you have available and can supply the proper charging current to the battery type you have.
 
  • Informative
Likes   Reactions: Klystron and berkeman
narayan821 said:
I have a source of electricity that's alternating but at variable frequencies. So an asynchronous alternating current of sorts if you will.
It has become very easy now to convert any source of electrical energy into a DC supply.
It may be that extracting some energy will reduce the efficiency of some other part of a dynamic system. What is the energy source you are thinking of harvesting?
 
narayan821 said:
I have a source of electricity that's alternating but at variable frequencies. So an asynchronous alternating current of sorts if you will. Can industrial rechargeable batteries be charged like this efficiently?
You will need a charger anyway.
These days the first part of the circuit of the chargers are about converting the incoming 'whatever' into DC.
This circuit should be able to deal with DC and some not too high frequency AC too, not just with the usual 50/60Hz.

Variable frequency, you say? Is it some wind or water related thing?
Then your problem is not just about charging, but about maintaining the optimal operating point//getting the maximal available power out of the device.
In such case - honestly, it's just better to get a charger which is built for this. That's not just 'should be able to deal with' but it'll be in the rated range and you'll get a paper about it.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
2K
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
Replies
21
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
13
Views
6K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
4K