Making a Step-up DC transformer

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of charging high voltage capacitors (450V) using household electricity, specifically addressing the need for a step-up DC transformer or alternative methods to achieve the desired voltage for a linear electromagnetic launcher project. The conversation touches on safety concerns and the complexity of the required circuitry.

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  • One participant seeks a method to charge 450V capacitors from a 250V AC power supply, expressing frustration with common AC-DC transformers that provide lower DC voltages.
  • Another participant warns against tampering with household electricity for safety reasons, questioning the necessity of charging such high voltage capacitors and suggesting safer alternatives.
  • A participant mentions the use of high voltage capacitors for a linear electromagnetic launcher, explaining the need for rapid discharging to enhance performance.
  • One participant finds a circuit online that could potentially output 390V from a 24V DC input but notes the complexity and required precision of the assembly.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of experience with high voltages and the implications of building a rail gun, suggesting a focus on safer projects to build skills.

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Participants express significant disagreement regarding the safety and feasibility of the original project. While some participants emphasize safety and caution, others are focused on the technical aspects of achieving the desired voltage.

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Participants highlight the complexity of the circuitry required for high voltage applications and the potential dangers associated with working with household electricity and high voltage systems. There is an acknowledgment of the need for experience and skill in handling such projects.

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Step downs are common, but seems step ups are rare?
For one of my scientific projects, I want to charge a couple of 450V capacitors in parallel, which I get the power from household electricity, because a lot of lithium polymer batteries can be expensive and take up a lot of space.
The problem is, the power supply gives a 250V AC, and and I need 450V, or at least around 400 volts of DC. A common AC-DC transformer I can get at a electronic market turns the AC power to a 12V or 24V DC, and that’s pretty useless on its own. The other way is use 4 diodes to ensure the electricity goes one-way, so I can make DC, this method does not change voltage, therefore I get 250 volts, which is still not enough...
Is there a way I can get the high DC voltage I want? I heard Tesla car batteries are at 400 volts and the car can charge from household electricity. But I have no wielding devices and no professional skills in electric engineering. Can I still do it?
 
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Xforce said:
Can I still do it?
Not safely at least. Tampering with power from the electricity grid is a bad idea, trying to transform their voltages to higher values is a really bad (and potentially lethal) idea.

Why do you want to charge 450 V capacitors? There might be a better, safe option.
 
mfb said:
Not safely at least. Tampering with power from the electricity grid is a bad idea, trying to transform their voltages to higher values is a really bad (and potentially lethal) idea.

Why do you want to charge 450 V capacitors? There might be a better, safe option.
I’m hoping for the better and safer option, I don’t know how to charge them.
I’m using high voltage capacitors for a linear electromagnetic launcher (a more scientific name) , that uses Ampere force to launch stuff, as current goes through the projectile, and the force exerted depends on the current. So I need high voltage capacitors for rapid discharging so the launch will be more successful.
 
By the way, I find this circuit on the internet, which outputs 390V maybe? It requires 24V DC input, which I certainly can do. But it seems a bit complicated and requires lots and accurate wielding?
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Xforce said:
I don’t know how to charge them.
I’m using high voltage capacitors for a linear electromagnetic launcher
Well, that's two reasons to shut down this thread. You don't have experience with high voltages (and moderately high power), and you are still trying to build a rail gun. Please focus on safer projects while you build your skillset.
 
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