Does Equal Kinetic Energy Imply Different Momenta for Cars with Varying Masses?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between kinetic energy, momentum, and mass in two cars with differing masses. The original poster presents a scenario where two cars (A and B) have equal kinetic energy but different masses, prompting questions about their respective velocities and momenta.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants attempt to calculate velocities and momenta for the cars based on given kinetic energy values and question the validity of their results. They explore the implications of mass on velocity and momentum, raising concerns about potential flaws in their reasoning.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion regarding their calculations and the relationships between mass, velocity, and momentum. There is a mix of attempts to generalize findings and specific examples, with some guidance offered to consider the relationships in a broader context. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the correctness of their conclusions.

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Participants note that their results contradict feedback from a professor, leading to further questioning of their assumptions and calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify the relationships involved rather than relying solely on specific numerical examples.

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Homework Statement



Car A has a greater mass than car B. Let:

- KA = the kinetic energy of car A
- KB = the kinetic energy of car B
- pA = the magnitude of the momentum of car A
- pB = the magnitude of the momentum of car B
- vA = the speed of car A
- vB = the speed of car B

a) If car A and car B have the same kinetic energy (KA = KB), then

Homework Equations


p=mv
Ke= .5(m)(v^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to set up a situation:
Car A- 10 kg Car B- 5kg Ke=20 J
.5(10)(v^2) = 20 .5(5)(v^2)=20
v= 2 m/s v= 2.828 THEREFORE Vb > Va
Pa=10(2) = 20 Pb=5(2.828) THEREFORE Pb < Pa

But the selection Pb<Pa and Vb>Va is wrong
Is there a flaw in my reasoning
thank you for your help
 
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with Ma=2 and Mb=1 and Ke=10
im getting

Va=3.162
Vb=4.47

MVa=6.92
MVb=4.47

Vb>Va and MVb<MVa

same result as earlier and its wrong
 
avenkat0 said:
with Ma=2 and Mb=1 and Ke=10
im getting

Va=3.162
Vb=4.47

MVa=6.92
MVb=4.47

Vb>Va and MVb<MVa

same result as earlier and its wrong
I deleted my previous post because you edited your post after I had replied and therefore my previous post didn't make sense.
 
sorry about that it was a typo
 
Your answers look fine. You should, though, try to prove the relations in general, not just for particular values of mass, speed, etc.
 
the answer itself is wrong.
But i tried graphing the m: ke function and it shows that when the mass increases the Velocity decreases
and when the mass increases the momentum increases...
im confuzed haha what am i doing wrong here

pB < pA and vB > vA

was the answer i selected and it came out to be wrong
 
pB<pA and vB>vA are the correct answers. Who says it's wrong?
 
the professor... thanks for your help now that i know that i have someone to confirm it i guess i can email him
 
good luck :-)
 

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