Does Euler Force Affect Flight Experiments on Earth?

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The discussion centers on the impact of the Euler force, a fictitious force related to the Earth's angular acceleration, on planes flying above the Earth's surface. Participants clarify that while the angular acceleration of the Earth is negligible, it primarily affects measurements taken from the Earth's surface. The Euler force is relevant in the context of the chosen reference frame, with its influence diminishing for objects like planes that are not in direct contact with the Earth. The conversation also touches on the Earth's rotation, which is subject to tiny changes due to tidal forces, but remains largely constant. Ultimately, the consensus is that the Euler force does not significantly affect planes in flight.
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Hello! I am currently starting my thesis, and I would be pleased if you could help me.
As it is an ficticious force for non inertial frame, the Euler force affects every movement measured from the surface of the Earth.
But, it is related to the angular acceleration changes of our planet, so, Does it affect to a plane?
I mean, angular acceleration changes affect experiments that take place on the surface.
Sorry for my English! I know I am not good explaining myself.
Thank you for your replies.
 
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superyuby said:
But, it is related to the angular acceleration changes of our planet,
The Euler force is related to angular acceleration itself.

superyuby said:
Does it affect to a plane?
The angular acceleration of the Earth is tiny, and negligible in most applications.
 
A.T. said:
The Euler force is related to angular acceleration itself.

The angular acceleration of the Earth is tiny, and negligible in most applications.
Thank you for yout answer!
Yeah, I know that the angular acceleration is tiny, but I have to mention every force that act on a plane, including fictious forces.
Would you say that a plane is affected by the Euler Force?
Because the plane is not on the surface of the Earth, and this Euler forces would not affect because the plane is not ON a inertial frame wouldn't day?
I am a little bit confused
 
superyuby said:
I have to mention every force that act on a plane, including fictious forces.
In the reference frame of the Earth? You can pick some other frame where the Euler force on the plane is huge. But in the frame of the Earth it's like nothing. Compute it and see.
 
A.T. said:
In the reference frame of the Earth? You can pick some other frame where the Euler force on the plane is huge. But in the frame of the Earth it's like nothing. Compute it and see.
Yeah, every force is measured from the surface of the Earth. This is, the angular acceleration of the Earth acts on the measurer, not on the plane, so I don't know if enumerate it or not, because the Euler force doesn't affect to the plane.
But I am not sure about my afirmations.
 
Is the Earth's rotation accelerating? It seems pretty constant to me.
 
superyuby said:
This is, the angular acceleration of the Earth acts on the measurer, not on the plane,
The angular acceleration of the chosen reference frame determines the Euler force on all objects in an analysis based on that frame.
 
Khashishi said:
Is the Earth's rotation accelerating?
The rotation is changing negligibly, due to tidal torques, seasonal mass redistribution etc.
 
Khashishi said:
Is the Earth's rotation accelerating? It seems pretty constant to me.
It has a little bit acceleration, but it is extremely tiny. You can search "Tidal acceleration". The Tidal forces that are caused by the Moon are decreasing in a very very small quantity the rotation frequency of the Earth. So, the fictious force to compensate this effect if we make experiments on the surface of the Earth is called the "Euler Force"
But I don't know if it act on planes, which are not on the surface :L

Thank you for the answer!
 
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A.T. said:
The angular acceleration of the chosen reference frame determines the Euler force on all objects in an analysis based on that frame.
Thank you! That was one of my options. I was so confused because the definition of the Euler Force. As it's based on the acceleration of the Earth, I did not know if it affects on objects on the surface and in the air in the same way.
 
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