Does f(x) have to be in the ternary Cantor set?

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The discussion revolves around the function f(x) = (x+2)/3 and its relationship with the ternary Cantor set. The original poster seeks to understand whether this function maps the ternary Cantor set into itself and what that entails.

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  • The original poster attempts to prove that f(x) is a contraction and seeks clarification on the implications of mapping the ternary Cantor set into itself. Questions arise regarding the necessity for x to be in the Cantor set and the interpretation of the mapping process.

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Participants are exploring the mapping of intervals and the properties of the Cantor set. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the function and the Cantor set, particularly concerning base 3 expansions.

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There is a focus on the definition of the ternary Cantor set and the implications of the function's behavior on this set. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the conditions under which f(x) maps elements of the Cantor set.

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Hey all,

I would really like help on this probably simple proof:

That the map x |--> f(x) = (x+2)/3 on [0,1] is a contraction,
and maps the ternary Cantor set into itself. Also, find it's fixed point.


(1) I can easily show the fixed point (where f(x) = x) is 1.
(2) I can also pretty easily show it is a contraction:
where |f(x) - xo| <= q*|x - xo|, where q < 1, and xo is the fixed point.

(3) However, I can't seem to find a way to tell whether it maps the ternary Cantor set into itself. I kno the definition of the ternary Cantor set is taking the interval [0,1] and deleting the middle-third of the interval, and then repeating the process on each remaining interval, infinitely.

What does it mean by mapping the ternary Cantor set into itself? Does x have to start out being in the ternary Cantor set? If so, how is it possible if x can vary from [0,1]? What am I interpreting wrong?

Thanks,

Mark
 
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Look at how the function maps certain intervals. What sort of intervals must x be contained in for it to be in the Cantor set? What then happens to the intervals under function f(x)?
 
ah thx. just the boost i needed =)
 
What does it mean by mapping the ternary Cantor set into itself?

It means that if x is in the subset of [0,1] called the Cantor set, then f(x) is also in the Cantor set. You might use the fact that x is in the Cantor set if and only if its base 3 expansion contains no 1s.

(I've edited to change "contains no 0s" to "contains no 1s"!)

I've also given a little more thought to this. Since dividing by 3 base 3 just shifts the "decimal" point, this is trivial!
 
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