Does graphene actually remain strong for macroworld engineering?

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The discussion centers on the viability of graphene as a structural material for macroworld engineering, exploring its mechanical properties, particularly when stacked in layers. Participants consider whether graphene retains its strength in larger applications or if it is more suited for electronics and smaller-scale uses.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the feasibility of using graphene for macroscopic structures, questioning whether it would maintain its strength when layered.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential weakening of graphene when stacked, with references to graphite as a comparison, suggesting that bunched graphene may not retain the same properties.
  • One participant mentions research on controlled stacking of graphene on silicon carbide wafers, but expresses uncertainty about whether this process preserves its desirable properties.
  • Another participant highlights graphene's high Young's modulus, suggesting it may be suitable for microelectromechanical systems (MEMS) and nanoscale applications rather than large-scale structures.
  • There is a discussion about the strength of individual graphene sheets versus stacked layers, with some participants noting that while individual sheets may be strong, the bonding between layers could lead to weakness.
  • Questions are raised about the inherent mechanical properties of multilayer graphene and whether its atomic structure contributes to any loss of strength when scaled up.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the suitability of graphene for macroworld engineering. Multiple competing views exist regarding its mechanical properties when layered, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in understanding the implications of stacking graphene, including the dependence on specific conditions and definitions of strength. There are unresolved questions about the fundamental physics at the atomic level affecting the material's properties.

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I heard that people envision strong structural materials made out of graphene, but I heard it may weaken when being stack in layers. Is graphene viable for macroworld structural engineering or is it only suitable for electronics and similar applications?
 
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I know CNTs have excellent material strength when they are bunched together. I don't know what will happen for graphene. Will it not be just graphite, if bunched together?
 
Kholdstare said:
I know CNTs have excellent material strength when they are bunched together. I don't know what will happen for graphene. Will it not be just graphite, if bunched together?
I have found some papers talking of very controlled, low cost and efficient stacking of graphene on wafers of SiC (Silicon Carbide) but I'm not sure I'm proficient in that discipline to understand if that means they keep their properties or not.

I heard that it loses physical properties when stacked though I don't know if it's confirmed.

I doubt it's exactly like graphite though since that's basically a collection of debris of graphene and not perfect monolayers stack on top of each other. But who knows, it may in principle work similarly in macro sizes.
 
I seriously doubt you could build a macroscopic stucture out of graphene. However, graphene has a extremely high Young's modulus meaning it is potentially a good material for e.g. MEMS/NEMS resonators; and other microscopic applications.
 
The graphite is not very strong because the bounds between the graphene sheets on top of each other are very weak. If you are able to make just a single graphene sheet with macroscopic size it would still be strong.You could stack many graphene layers together and they would break apart very easily but the individual graphene sheets would still be strong.
I am not sure about that.
 
Sayajin said:
The graphite is not very strong because the bounds between the graphene sheets on top of each other are very weak. If you are able to make just a single graphene sheet with macroscopic size it would still be strong.You could stack many graphene layers together and they would break apart very easily but the individual graphene sheets would still be strong.
I am not sure about that.
Yes, but would they remain high in tensile strength (even if perhaps fragile in compression or with axial forces), or is it an inherent property of the multilayer form of the material that it becomes weaker? i.e. is it mechanically problematic, or do the fundamental physics of it at the atomic level weaken it?
 

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