Does Human Population Growth Affect Earth's Mass and Gravity?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Funkmaster W
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Change Gravity
AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers around the question of whether the mass of Earth's population was considered when determining the Earth's total mass. It is noted that the mass of the human population is negligible compared to Earth's mass, with estimates suggesting human biomass is about 1 part in 10 trillion of Earth's mass. Consequently, the increase in Earth's mass due to population growth is insignificant and would not meaningfully affect gravity. The influx of mass from meteorites and other sources is also minimal, estimated at 78,000 tons per year, which would take trillions of years to accumulate to a significant level. The uncertainty in the gravitational constant further complicates any potential impact on gravity, reinforcing that changes in Earth's mass due to human population are not relevant to gravitational calculations. Overall, the conversation emphasizes that the Earth's system is not closed and that mass influx from various sources does not significantly alter Earth's mass or gravity in practical terms.
Funkmaster W
Messages
12
Reaction score
0
First off i will start with a question. When the mass of the Earth was found was the mass of the current population taken into account? If so then technically as the years progress and population increases the mass of Earth would increase. If the population was not taken into account shouldn't it have been since just as a generalization the current population's mass is about half of Earth's mass. Now based on that if the mass of Earth is ever increasing won't gravity also change? Based off of the equation a = (G * m)/(r^2) where a is acceleration due to gravity G is the gravitational constant 6.67x10^-11, m is the mass of Earth and r is the radius of earth. Could someone please give some insight on this.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Funkmaster W said:
First off i will start with a question. When the mass of the Earth was found was the mass of the current population taken into account? If so then technically as the years progress and population increases the mass of Earth would increase. If the population was not taken into account shouldn't it have been since just as a generalization the current population's mass is about half of Earth's mass. Now based on that if the mass of Earth is ever increasing won't gravity also change? Based off of the equation a = (G * m)/(r^2) where a is acceleration due to gravity G is the gravitational constant 6.67x10^-11, m is the mass of Earth and r is the radius of earth. Could someone please give some insight on this.

OK, the hard (and wrong) answer:
Human bio-mass: 10^11
Earth mass: 10^24
Difference: 1 part in 10,000,000,000,000; that's a 13 decimal place fraction.
To how many decimal places is the gravitational constant known? You've shown 2 (6.67). So, 6.67 versus 6.67000000000001 I guess? :wink:

Now the easy (and right) answer (you'll kick yourself):
Um. Exactly where do you think human babies come from? Do you think they pop into existence from a white hole? Where does their mass come from? :biggrin:
 
Last edited:
The Earth is not a closed system. There is meteorites and all manner of matter coming down to earth. Most importantly, the light from the sun has energy. E=mc^2
 
We are all children of the...meteorites. :biggrin:
 
bassplayer142 said:
The Earth is not a closed system. There is meteorites and all manner of matter coming down to earth.
So? Is the increase in mass due to this mass influx at all significant? An upper estimate on this mass influx is 78,000 tons per year, or about 1×10-17 Earth masses per year. The uncertainty in the Earth's mass is dominated by the uncertainty in G, which is about one part in 104. It would take about 10 trillion years of continued accumulation for the influx to be significant by this measure. Eliminating this uncertainty in G by expressing the Earth's mass as the product μ=G*M=398,600.4418±0.0009 km3s–2 helps, but not much. It will still take about a billion years of accumulation to make the change in the Earth's mass significant even by this much more sensitive metric.

Most importantly, the light from the sun has energy. E=mc^2
And how is this important? (Hint: It isn't.) Think about it for just a bit.
 
Similar to the 2024 thread, here I start the 2025 thread. As always it is getting increasingly difficult to predict, so I will make a list based on other article predictions. You can also leave your prediction here. Here are the predictions of 2024 that did not make it: Peter Shor, David Deutsch and all the rest of the quantum computing community (various sources) Pablo Jarrillo Herrero, Allan McDonald and Rafi Bistritzer for magic angle in twisted graphene (various sources) Christoph...
Thread 'My experience as a hostage'
I believe it was the summer of 2001 that I made a trip to Peru for my work. I was a private contractor doing automation engineering and programming for various companies, including Frito Lay. Frito had purchased a snack food plant near Lima, Peru, and sent me down to oversee the upgrades to the systems and the startup. Peru was still suffering the ills of a recent civil war and I knew it was dicey, but the money was too good to pass up. It was a long trip to Lima; about 14 hours of airtime...
Back
Top