Does Increasing ICE Engine Efficiency Lower Exhaust Temperatures Proportionally?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the relationship between increasing the efficiency of internal combustion engines (ICE) and its effect on exhaust temperatures. Participants explore whether improvements in engine efficiency lead to proportional decreases in exhaust temperatures, considering various factors influencing energy loss.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant estimates that current ICE efficiency is around 20% and questions if increasing this efficiency would proportionally lower exhaust temperatures, assuming constant driveline losses.
  • Another participant suggests that the relationship may not be straightforward, indicating that the method of increasing efficiency could significantly influence outcomes.
  • A third participant highlights that waste energy from an ICE is emitted through various channels, including exhaust, radiator, and direct air contact, suggesting that increased efficiency might reduce emissions in multiple forms rather than solely affecting exhaust temperature.
  • It is proposed that improvements in efficiency could lead to reduced exhaust temperature, reduced exhaust volume, and decreased heating of air through the radiator and engine compartment, among other potential benefits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether increasing ICE efficiency will lead to a proportional decrease in exhaust temperatures, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the mechanisms and outcomes involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding how efficiency improvements are achieved and their specific impacts on different forms of energy loss.

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So the current estimate is that an ICE engine is about 20%. If we were able to increase the efficiency of a given engine, would that result in a proportional decrease in exhaust temperatures? (Given that driveline loss to friction is constant)
 
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It would depend on how the increase was achieved. An ICE emits waste energy not only through the exhaust but also though the radiator and directly to the air. If the efficiency increases, the decreased emission of waste energy could be in the form of reduced exhaust temperature, reduced exhaust volume, reduced heating of air via the radiator, reduced heating of air via circulation through the engine compartment, reduced noise or vibration, or most likely several of the above.
 

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