Does order increase or decrease?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between time, complexity, and thermodynamics. Participants argue that while the formation of galaxies, stars, and planets may suggest an increase in complexity, the overall trend is towards greater disorder, as dictated by the second law of thermodynamics. This law states that in any isolated system, entropy tends to increase, leading to a net increase in disorder despite localized order being created. The analogy of a glass of water breaking illustrates that adding order in one area results in increased disorder elsewhere.

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as we move forth in time, does the universe become more or less complex? is this related to the theory of thermodynamics? I just need a brief explanation I'm a bit confused.
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hi phy_freak!:smile:

i suppose you're thinking that, going forward in time, galaxies are created, stars are created, planets are created, and so on …

which looks like more complexity (less disorder), doesn't it?

but it's like a magician distracting you…

you're so busy loooking at the pretty stuff that you don't notice that everything else is getting more disordered much faster! :biggrin:
 
Just think on a small scale about what happens if you drop a glass full of water onto the floor - it sure doesn't get more organized and you'll find that every time you add order to something you've taken it away from something else in the process.
 

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