Does Quantum Mechanics Suggest Photons Are Electrons and Positrons in a Cycle?

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The discussion explores the relationship between photons, electrons, and positrons in quantum mechanics, specifically whether photons can be considered as cycles of electron-positron pairs. It clarifies that while electrons and positrons can annihilate to create photons, a single photon cannot spontaneously become an electron-positron pair due to energy and momentum conservation laws. However, two high-energy photons can collide to form an electron-positron pair, and an electron-positron pair can annihilate to produce two photons. The presence of a nucleus is necessary for a single photon to create an electron-positron pair, as it helps balance energy and momentum. The conversation also touches on the role of electric fields in this process and corrects a previous error regarding the energy threshold for pair production, which is 1.022 MeV.
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Does QM tell us that photons are actually electrons and positrons goign through a cycle of annilation and creation?
 
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can an electron and positron annhilate each other without the presence of a neutron?
 
No, but an electron and a positron can annihilate to create a photon. this is not a statement about ALL photons.

Electron positron annihilation not have to happen in the presence of a neutron.
 
Is that to say there is a 0 probabilty of a photon going to a positron and electron?
 
A single photon cannot spontaneously become an electron and a positron, as it would be unable to simultaneously conserve energy and momentum. For the same reason, an electron and a positron cannot annihilate into a single photon.

However, two colliding photons (if they have sufficient energy) can form and electron and a positron; and, an electron and positron can annihilate to form two photons.
 
According to the path integral formulation of QM, a photon has a non-zero probability of spending time as a (virtual ?) e+/e- pair.
 
In addition to the 2 photon into electron-positron pair, it is possible for a single photon (of enough energy >1.22 Mev) to form a pair when in the presence of a nucleus to get the required energy and momentum balance. This reaction is quite common in nuclear reactors and in lead shielding.
 
Mathman, with the single photon near a nucleus, does the electric field of the nucleus play a part ? Presumably a 1.22 Mev photon is a gamma-ray type .
 
The electric field plays a role, since (I presume) the electromagnetic force is the only force involved. As far as the photon energy, yes it is a gamma ray. Gamma rays from nuclear reactors can be as high as 10 Mev (maybe even higher).

P.S. Error (by me) - threshold for pair production is 1.022 Mev, not 1.22.
 
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