Does Reversing Time Affect Acceleration and Velocity in Classical Physics?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of reversing time on acceleration and velocity within the framework of classical physics. Participants explore the mathematical relationships between these concepts and their behavior under time reversal, addressing both theoretical and conceptual aspects.

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  • One participant questions the implications of treating time as negative in classical physics, particularly in relation to acceleration and velocity.
  • Another participant explains that acceleration, being a second-order derivative, remains unchanged under time reversal, while velocity, as a first-order derivative, is reversed.
  • A further example is provided involving a particle moving to the right with negative acceleration, illustrating how reversing time leads to the particle moving left while maintaining the direction of acceleration and net force.
  • It is noted that making the time increment negative does not equate to time itself being negative, suggesting a distinction between time direction and numerical value.

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Participants generally agree on the mathematical relationships between acceleration and velocity under time reversal, but the implications and interpretations of these relationships remain a topic of exploration and discussion.

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Some assumptions about the nature of time and its representation in equations are not fully explored, and the discussion does not resolve the broader implications of time reversal in physics.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying classical mechanics, particularly in understanding the effects of time reversal on motion and the mathematical relationships involved.

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Hello there, i have a question that confuses me a lot. Is there a difference between the way that we think about time in many classical physics concepts as if it goes to a negative number. For example, we have dv/dt and we can be sure if velocity increases with respect to time and respect to our inertial frame that the acceleration is non zero (positive or negative). If i plug -dt and i don't know if there is a such thing, velocity becomes negative and i can image the motion like a trajectory starts to reverse its motion. But in the dx^2/d^2t the acc doesn't change its sign. What does it mean? Could we think that if time goes to positive or negative, shouldn't it be the same ? Thank you
 
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universal2013 said:
But in the dx^2/d^2t the acc doesn't change its sign. What does it mean? Could we think that if time goes to positive or negative, shouldn't it be the same ?
This is the correct one. Acceleration is second order in time: ##a=\frac{d^2}{dt^2}x##. So acceleration is unchanged under time reversal. And therefore force is also unchanged.

In contrast velocity is first order in time: ##v=\frac{d}{dt}x##. So velocity is reversed under time reversal.

That means that the laws of physics* (which describe the forces) are the same under time reversal, and what changes are some of the initial conditions.

*Excluding thermodynamics
 
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Imagine a particle moving towards the right and slowing down. Suppose you have a strobe light flashing at regular intervals of time. Each time the strobe light flashes it reveals the location of the particle. The dots in the following drawing show those locations:

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Let's say the velocity is positive, which would make the acceleration negative. If you reverse time you see that the particle would move to the left, speeding up. Now the velocity is negative but the acceleration is also negative! Note that in both cases the acceleration is directed to the left, and so is the net force.

As @Dale says, the acceleration and the force are unchanged under time reversal.

Also, note that when you make ##dt## negative you are not necessarily making ##t## negative. That is, having time go backwards is not the same thing as time being negative.
 

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Thanks for the answers!
 

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