Does the Chain Rule Apply to Gauge Transformations in Lie Groups?

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Again, I'm not sure whether this is the best place to post this question but its to do with gauge transformations, etc.

The question itself is rather stupid...

If we have a matrix U(g) (a Lie Group) and a vector φ in C (which is a scalar in spacetime) - does it make sense to use the chain rule thus:

{\partial}_\mu (U(g) \phi) = U(g){\partial}_\mu \phi + ({\partial}_\mu U(g)) \phi

We are separately differentiating a matrix and vector - this seems very odd to me.
 
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vertices said:
Again, I'm not sure whether this is the best place to post this question but its to do with gauge transformations, etc.

The question itself is rather stupid...

If we have a matrix U(g) (a Lie Group) and a vector φ in C (which is a scalar in spacetime) - does it make sense to use the chain rule thus:

{\partial}_\mu (U(g) \phi) = U(g){\partial}_\mu \phi + ({\partial}_\mu U(g)) \phi

We are separately differentiating a matrix and vector - this seems very odd to me.

Look at it from a component point of view. The i'th component of the vector \phi' = U(g)\phi is

\phi&#039;_{i} = \sum_j U(g)_{ij}\phi_j[/itex]<br /> <br /> This is simply a sum of differentiable stuff. So differentiating gives<br /> <br /> {\partial}_\mu \phi&amp;#039;_{i} = {\partial}_\mu\left(\sum_j U(g)_{ij}\phi_j\right) = \sum_j \left({\partial}_\mu U(g)_{ij}\right)\phi_j + \sum_j U(g)_{ij}\left({\partial}_\mu\phi_j\right)[/itex]&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Now you can identify the first term with ({\partial}_\mu U(g)) \phi and the second with U(g){\partial}_\mu \phi
 
That makes sense, and doesn't seem stupid to me.
 
xepma said:
Look at it from a component point of view. The i'th component of the vector \phi&#039; = U(g)\phi is

\phi&#039;_{i} = \sum_j U(g)_{ij}\phi_j[/itex]<br /> <br /> This is simply a sum of differentiable stuff. So differentiating gives<br /> <br /> {\partial}_\mu \phi&amp;#039;_{i} = {\partial}_\mu\left(\sum_j U(g)_{ij}\phi_j\right) = \sum_j \left({\partial}_\mu U(g)_{ij}\right)\phi_j + \sum_j U(g)_{ij}\left({\partial}_\mu\phi_j\right)[/itex]&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Now you can identify the first term with ({\partial}_\mu U(g)) \phi and the second with U(g){\partial}_\mu \phi
&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; thanks xempa - convincing explanation:)
 
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