Does the magnetic field produced by a magnet act on itself?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interaction of magnetic fields produced by conductors and magnets, particularly focusing on whether a magnetic field acts on itself and the implications of induced currents in conductors placed in magnetic fields. The scope includes conceptual understanding and technical reasoning related to electromagnetism.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the magnetic field produced by an induced current in a conductor acts on the conductor itself, expressing confusion about the concept.
  • Another participant asserts that the magnetic field from one part of the conductor does act on other parts of the conductor, mentioning that this interaction can cause a flexible conductor loop to attempt to form a circular shape.
  • The same participant discusses the backreaction of the coil's magnetic field on the conductor, relating it to the principle behind eddy-current brakes, where induced currents from a moving magnet create a magnetic field that opposes the motion.
  • A follow-up question is posed regarding the induction of current when a bar magnet is dropped through a conducting ring, specifically asking if current is induced when the ring is perfectly centered in the magnet.
  • Another participant responds that regardless of the position of the ring, there will always be variations in magnetic field strength that induce a current.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that magnetic fields interact with conductors and that induced currents can affect the conductor itself. However, there is a lack of consensus on the specifics of current induction in different configurations, particularly regarding the bar magnet and conducting ring scenario.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the nuances of how magnetic fields interact in different configurations, and assumptions about the behavior of the magnetic field in relation to the conductor are not fully explored.

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So when a conductor in complete circuit is placed next to a moving magnetic field, current in the conductor is induced and the induced current again produces its own magnetic field. So does this new magnetic field act on the conductor? It's the same as the question in the title. Is my concept wrong? I'm really confused.
Thanks a lot for the help!
 
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Yes. Or, more precisely, the magnetic field from one part of the conductor will act on other parts of the conductor. If you have a conductor loop made out of a very flexible material and power it, it will try to reach a circular shape due to this interaction.

The backreaction from the coil's magnetic field to the conductor that you discuss is also present, and it is the idea behind eddy-current brakes for example: A moving magnet induces currents, those currents induce a magnetic field that slows down the magnet.
 
OK thanks.
 
One more question. When a bar magnet is dropped through a conducting ring,current is induced. Is there current induced when the ring is perfecting in the middle of the bar magnet? And why?
 
No matter how you place it, you'll always have places where the magnetic field strength changes, which induces a current.
 

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