Does the Order of Voltage Transformation Affect AC Power Supply Output?

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The discussion revolves around the configuration of an adjustable AC power supply, specifically the order of voltage transformation using a variac transformer, an isolation transformer, and a stepdown transformer. Participants explore the implications of different arrangements on voltage and current output, focusing on performance and regulation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the order of stepping down voltage matters, considering the use of a variac transformer and a stepdown transformer.
  • Another participant suggests that the order does affect performance and recommends stepping down voltage first before using the variac, citing concerns about voltage spikes.
  • A different participant emphasizes that stepping down voltage increases current, noting that the variac's current rating could impact performance at lower voltages.
  • It is mentioned that placing the variac first could improve regulation due to it handling less current.
  • A later reply confirms that using the variac first resulted in stable output, indicating a practical outcome from the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the optimal order of transformers, with some advocating for stepping down voltage first while others support using the variac first. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach, as no consensus is reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of transformer ratings and the effects of current on voltage drop, but some assumptions about the specific ratings and conditions of the transformers are not fully explored.

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Hi all,
I need to create an adjustable power supply (AC) that ranges from 0-6 volts with roughly 1 ampere at 1 volt. I have a variac transformer (0-130 volts), an isolation transformer and a stepdown transformer. My question is, does it matter what order I step the voltage down? In other words, could I keep the variac in front of the stepdown transformer, and vary the input voltage of the stepdown transformer? Or should I step it down first then use the variac (even though the input voltage is rated at 120 v...)

Or does it not matter at all?

Thanks,
-Andrew
 
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You can fine-adjust the amplitude of the AC wave using a resistor or potentiometer. You are using a variable transformer though. The relationship between voltage and current depends on the load - you cannot just supply a fixed voltage and current.

For your question - which order you step down will affect the performance ... but you should certainly step down first, and then use the variac. It may be rated at 120V, but what about spikes? Put the highest rated transformer first.
 
AndrewBourhis said:
Hi all,
I need to create an adjustable power supply (AC) that ranges from 0-6 volts with roughly 1 ampere at 1 volt.

Does that mean it'll be 6 amps at 6 volts?

I have a variac transformer (0-130 volts), an isolation transformer and a stepdown transformer. My question is, does it matter what order I step the voltage down? In other words, could I keep the variac in front of the stepdown transformer, and vary the input voltage of the stepdown transformer? Or should I step it down first then use the variac (even though the input voltage is rated at 120 v...)

Or does it not matter at all?

Thanks,
-Andrew

You already know the answer.
As you step voltage down you step current up. The voltage drop in your transformer windings is in proportion to current, it'll amount to a few percent of nameplate volts at nameplate amps..

What is the current rating of your variac? Probably it'll have a volt or two drop at nameplate amps and max setting. That's not bothersome at 130 volts out, but it sure could be at 6 volts out.

Placing variac first will give you better regulation out of it because it'll be handling less current.
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jim hardy said:
You already know the answer.
As you step voltage down you step current up. The voltage drop in your transformer windings is in proportion to current, it'll amount to a few percent of nameplate volts at nameplate amps..

What is the current rating of your variac? Probably it'll have a volt or two drop at nameplate amps and max setting. That's not bothersome at 130 volts out, but it sure could be at 6 volts out.

Placing variac first will give you better regulation out of it because it'll be handling less current.



old jim


Great, I measured the output of using the variac first, and it was fairly stable. Now I need to rectify this into a DC...

Thanks for the help
 

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