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kat said:On to the topic at hand. No, we shouldn't apoligize based on the MSM myths and misconstrued reporting or the Duelfer and Kay reports.
prison laboratory
" A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN." And elsewhere in the report, the chilling implication that the Iraqis didn't just have this facility, but that they used it: "Additional information is beginning to corroborate reporting since 1996 about human testing activities using chemical and biological substances, but progress in this area is slow given the concern of knowledgeable Iraqi personnel about their being prosecuted for crimes against humanity"
So, only suspicions and a lot of extrapolation. No evidence.
new research in... biological weapons
Verbatim from Kay: "New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF), and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN."
"Actual live biological weapons"
Verbatim: "Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home, one of which can be used to produce biological weapons."
A possibility. But again no proof. Just a few vials in a scientist's home. You don't know what I have in MY basement :-)
Documents and equipment to develop nuclear weapons
Here's what Kay actually said: "Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS)".
Stuff that "would have been useful if..."
Specially developed airplanes, designed to spray anthrax out of a small device on the underside of the plane.
kay stated that "A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit." And elsewhere, more detail: " two UAV programs that were working in parallel, one at Ibn Fernas and one at al-Rashid Air Force Base. Ibn Fernas worked on the development of smaller, more traditional types of UAVs in addition to the conversion of manned aircraft into UAVs...All these systems had declared ranges of less than 150km. Several Iraqi officials stated that the RPV-20 flew over 500km on autopilot in 2002...Additional work is also focusing on the payloads and intended use for these UAVs... Iraq's interest before the Gulf War in attempting to convert a MIG-21 into an unmanned aerial vehicle to carry spray tanks capable of dispensing chemical or biological agents, attention is being paid to whether any of the newer generation of UAVs were intended to have a similar purpose. This remains an open question."
Ok, that was a real danger of course for the US's integrity. All the rest is again speculatoin.
several vials of live biological weapons that could be used to replicate and mass produce toxins to kill humans "within one week.
Here's Kay verbatim: "The scientists discussed the development of improved, simplified fermentation and spray drying capabilities for the simulant Bt that would have been directly applicable to anthrax, and one scientist confirmed that the production line for Bt could be switched to produce anthrax in one week if the seed stock were available."
Again, no hard evidence of actual weapons ready to be used. Just discussions on a SPRAY.
the scientists caught holding these weapons admitted that there were large stockpiles of such weapons
"The scientist who concealed the vials containing this [biological] agent has identified a large cache of agents that he was asked, but refused, to conceal. ISG is actively searching for this second cache.".
"I'm sure it must be somewhere"
... and not worth the effort of course, so that terrorists can look for it themselves, hahaha.As the complete report documents, he didn't say that at all.
Here's what Kay said: "there are approximately 130 known Iraqi Ammunition Storage Points (ASP), many of which exceed 50 square miles in size and hold an estimated 600,000 tons of artillery shells, rockets, aviation bombs and other ordinance. Of these 130 ASPs, approximately 120 still remain unexamined. As Iraqi practice was not to mark much of their chemical ordinance and to store it at the same ASPs that held conventional rounds, the size of the required search effort is enormous."
U.S. forces discovered seven pounds of cyanide
Mymymy. Every paint production hall must contain more than that !
While speaking to Congress, Kay also said of the Iraqi nuclear program, "They started building new buildings, renovating it, hiring some new staff and bringing them together. Fortunately -- and they ran a few physics experiments, re-run -- re-ran experiments they had actually run in the '80s. Fortunately from my point of view, Operation Iraqi Freedom intervened, and we don't know how or how fast that would have gone ahead."
There was again not much, but they MIGHT.
Conclusion: effectively what was announced to be there and ready to be launched against the US, wasn't there. (the reason of the war, remember) There might, eventually, if we let them do, and if they wanted, and had the means, one day, be something.
Yeah. But they found 7 pounds of cyanide.
Hey, and even cigarettes with high tar content. Also very dangerous.
Outragious to say such a thing. The guy who says such a thing, and his whole country must be justifiably be vilified.

sorry about that