Does this sequence converge to the proposed limit?

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The discussion revolves around verifying the convergence of several sequences to their proposed limits using the definition of convergence. The sequences in question include limits approaching 0 and \(\frac{3}{2}\), with participants exploring the necessary conditions for convergence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of convergence and how to apply it to the given sequences. There are attempts to manipulate expressions to find suitable values of \(N\) for given \(\epsilon\). Questions arise about the correctness of algebraic manipulations and the dependence of \(N\) on \(\epsilon\).

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the algebra involved in determining convergence. Some participants provide guidance on simplifying expressions and finding appropriate \(N\) values, while others express uncertainty about the implications of their findings.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of using the formal definition of convergence, and there is a focus on ensuring that their manipulations adhere to this definition. The discussion reflects a mix of confidence and confusion regarding the algebraic steps required.

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Homework Statement


Verify, using the definition of convergence of a sequence, that
the following sequences converge to the proposed limit.
a) [itex]lim \frac{1}{6n^2+1}=0[/itex]
b) [itex]lim \frac{3n+1}{2n+5}=\frac{3}{2}[/itex]
c) [itex]lim \frac{2}{\sqrt{n+3}} = 0[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


A sequence [itex]a_n[/itex] converges to a real number a if for every ε there is
an N in the naturals such that whenever n≥N it follows that
[itex]|a_n-a|< \epsilon[/itex].
so for the first one I need [itex]\frac{1}{6n^2+1}< \epsilon[/itex]
and then I turn it into [itex]\frac{1}{\epsilon}<6n^2+1[/itex]
So i could pick an n large enough to make that happen.
on the second one I move the 3/2 over and then combine those
fractions with a common denominator and I get
[itex]|\frac{-12}{4n+10}|< \epsilon[/itex]
Am I doing this right or am I way off.
 
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cragar said:
on the second one I move the 3/2 over and then combine those
fractions with a common denominator and I get
[itex]|\frac{-12}{4n+10}|< \epsilon[/itex]
Am I doing this right or am I way off.
Good start, though the -12 should be -13. Now what?
 
so I have [itex]|\frac{-13}{4n+10}<\epsilon |[/itex]
for any epsilon I can pick an n large enough to make that true.
 
You should explicitly find what N will work.
 
that seems weird to me because [itex]\epsilon[/itex] could be anything
so how would any fixed N work.
 
You're given some ##\epsilon > 0##, and then you have to find some N for that given ##\epsilon## such that the implication holds, so N will generally depend on ##\epsilon##.

For example, if you had
$$\frac{1}{n} < \epsilon \qquad \Rightarrow \qquad n > \frac{1}{\epsilon},$$ you could choose N to be any integer greater than ##1/\epsilon##.
 
so then I just solve for n in terms of [itex]\epsilon[/itex]
[itex].25(\frac{-13}{\epsilon }-10)<n[/itex]
thanks for your help by the way
 
Since you're working with inequalities, you can do some simplifications to make the algebra less tedious:
$$\left|\frac{-13}{4n+10}\right| < \frac{16}{4n} = \frac{4}{n} < \epsilon$$So instead of that complicated expression you have, you can choose N to be an integer greater than 4/ε.
 

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