Does time run slower or faster in a magnetic field?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of whether time runs slower or faster in a magnetic field. Participants explore concepts related to time dilation, the effects of gravitational and magnetic fields, and the implications of Einstein's theories of relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that time does not run slower or faster in a magnetic field, questioning the basis for such a claim.
  • Others reference Einstein's theories of relativity, suggesting that motion and gravitational fields affect the rate of time passage between observers, but express uncertainty about the role of magnetic fields.
  • A participant mentions that while gravitational fields affect time, magnetic fields do not have the same effect, although they note that energy in a strong magnetic field could have indirect effects on time.
  • There is curiosity about whether time has been tested in magnetic fields, with some uncertainty about the existence of direct tests.
  • One participant introduces the Kerr-Newman metric, which describes the gravitational field around a rotating charged object, as potentially relevant to the discussion.
  • Another participant discusses the concept of unified field theories and their potential to provide insights into the relationship between gravity and other forces, although they express doubt about their understanding of these theories.
  • There is speculation about whether gravity's effects on time could be related to phenomena beyond traditional gravitational warping.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effects of magnetic fields on the passage of time, with multiple competing views and uncertainties expressed throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in understanding the relationship between magnetic fields and time, as well as the need for further exploration of theoretical frameworks and empirical tests.

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Does time run slower or faster in a magnetic field?
 
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No. Why should it ?
 
BvU said:
No. Why should it ?
It was just a question. BTW, how do you know this?
 
No reason. It was just a thought. BTW, how do you know this to be fact?
 
Look into Einstein's Relativity theory(s). Motion and gravitational fields affect the rate as compared between different observers. That's it.
 
russ_watters said:
Look into Einstein's Relativity theory(s). Motion and gravitational fields affect the rate as compared between different observers. That's it.
I know a gravitational field does but how does that apply to magnetic fields?
 
LitleBang said:
I know a gravitational field does but how does that apply to magnetic fields?
It doesn't. "That's it" means those are the only two things that affect the rate of the passage of time.

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Perhaps a little more detail:

People have been studying (successfully) how time works for about a hundred years. It was discovered to be dimension somewhat similar to length. And gravity is a manifestation of a curving/bending of those dimensions. Magnetism doesn't do that.

There is a caveat to that, though. Since matter and energy are related/proportional to each other, anything that has energy gravitates. So in that way a strong field can affect time, indirectly.
 
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Wonder if anyone has ever tested time in a magnetic field?
 
LitleBang said:
Wonder if anyone has ever tested time in a magnetic field?
I'm not sure if it has been tested directly. Unfortunately, failed ideas often get somewhat lost/harder to find how they were tested.
 
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There are some interesting answers here.
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/100279/does-strong-magnetic-field-cause-time-dilation

According to general relativity. it would seem that any field with energy, stress, pressure, etc, can affect the passage of coordinate time; Proper time, that which you measure locally, remains unchanged. Your own wristwatch continues to tick at its normal steady, fixed pace. Hence coordinate clocks should run a smidgen slower in sunlight than in dark...way too small to be measured I would think...How about in the vicinity of a hugely strong permanent magnet?
 
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Aren't there some unified field theories that unite the gravity, electro-weak, and strong nuclear forces?

One of those theories might be able to make a prediction pertaining to the O.P.s question. I doubt I would understand the answer, but some here might. If someone here knows those theories well enough to dumb it down for us laymen, I would be interested / greatfull for the insight.
 
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mrspeedybob said:
Aren't there some unified field theories that unite the gravity, electro-weak, and strong nuclear forces?

good thought, but not yet:

"... a theoretical framework revealing a deeper underlying reality, unifying gravity with the other three interactions, must be discovered to harmoniously integrate the realms of GR and QFT into a seamless whole: a single theory that, in principle, is capable of describing all phenomena. In pursuit of this goal, quantum gravity has recently become an area of active research.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything
 
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Since we have been trying to understand gravity's mechanism for more than 200 years maybe it is a function of some other phenomena like the warping of time due to mass instead of the warping of time due to gravity?
 
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Closed for moderation

Edit: this will remain closed. I recommend to study in depth the metric mentioned in post 11. That (and the theory behind it) really say everything that is known about the topic.
 
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