Doing a project, need some insight to some physics things

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a passion project focused on understanding the physics of human bodies in relation to running speed, impact, and biomechanics. Participants explore various aspects of human physiology, potential limits of running speed, and hypothetical scenarios involving machines designed for running.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the maximum running speed of an ideal human, noting the world record is just under 10 m/s, and question if greater speeds are achievable.
  • Others suggest that factors such as posture, pace, surface friction, air resistance, and muscle limits play significant roles in determining running speed.
  • One participant proposes that biochemistry, rather than physics, may be the primary factor separating top athletes.
  • A hypothesis is presented that the physical limit for human running speed could be around 15 m/s, with speculation that a machine could potentially exceed this limit significantly if free from biological constraints.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the current capabilities of control technology for machines designed to mimic human running.
  • There is a suggestion to explore the design of an upright bipedal mechanism capable of achieving high speeds, with discussions about its potential structure and size.
  • One participant humorously notes that in science fiction, humans could run faster than light speed, indicating a divergence into speculative territory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the limits of human running speed and the feasibility of machines designed for high-speed running. There is no consensus on the maximum achievable speed or the implications of biological versus mechanical limitations.

Contextual Notes

Discussions include various assumptions about human physiology and machine design, and there are unresolved questions regarding the impact of endurance and physical wear on running speed.

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Readers interested in biomechanics, sports science, engineering design, and speculative fiction may find the discussion relevant.

  • #31
I have a related question, realistically, how much acceleration could a human body provide? (Needed for dodge bullet equation.)
 
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  • #32
Jiku Araiguma said:
Which is more aerodynamic, sharp edges or curves?

You probably want curved surfaces, as you can shape them to minimize various types of turbulence, vortices, etc. Curved surfaces also withstand debris impacts better than a sharp edge does.

GTOM said:
I have a related question, realistically, how much acceleration could a human body provide? (Needed for dodge bullet equation.)

Your question is a bit vague, but an olympic sprinter's acceleration for the first 10 meters of a 100 meter race is around 3 m/s2. The acceleration of a hand or a foot would be greater than that.
 
  • #33
Drakkith said:
You probably want curved surfaces, as you can shape them to minimize various types of turbulence, vortices, etc. Curved surfaces also withstand debris impacts better than a sharp edge does.
Your question is a bit vague, but an olympic sprinter's acceleration for the first 10 meters of a 100 meter race is around 3 m/s2. The acceleration of a hand or a foot would be greater than that.
Thanks, although i wonder. If humán body can't produce more than 10 m/s2 how can it jump? Or perpendicular to a surface is a better case for gaining momentum?
 
  • #34
GTOM said:
Thanks, although i wonder. If humán body can't produce more than 10 m/s2 how can it jump? Or perpendicular to a surface is a better case for gaining momentum?

Jumping is not running. For one, you can use both legs at the same time when jumping, whereas in running only one leg provides acceleration at a time. Also, peak acceleration is probably larger than 3 m/s2 when the runner initially starts running. I'm not sure how much larger though.
 
  • #35
Now, I need some thoughts on punch/impact physics. How many ways are there to produce 4000N of force with a single punch? How fast would a normal fist be going? How big/small would a fist have to be to cause damage at that force? How much damage would be caused?
 
  • #36
Jiku Araiguma said:
Now, I need some thoughts on punch/impact physics. How many ways are there to produce 4000N of force with a single punch?

Peak force? Average force? Elite boxers can generate a maximum peak force of about 4000 to 5000 N, so that gives you an idea of what kind of level you need to be at.

Jiku Araiguma said:
How fast would a normal fist be going?

That depends on how heavy the person's fist is and how long it takes to decelerate it during impact, which depends on several other variables, so I don't really know. A fast boxer punch ranges somewhere around 20-30 mph, though.

Jiku Araiguma said:
How big/small would a fist have to be to cause damage at that force?

Just about any sized first can cause damage when you're exerting a force of 4,000 N on a portion of someone's face, head, and body.

Jiku Araiguma said:
How much damage would be caused?

That depends almost entirely upon where the blow struck. Without a glove, a punch like this can easily cause a concussion, break bones, and knock out teeth. Just look at the injuries punches cause in boxing or other martial arts.
 

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