Doing a project, need some insight to some physics things

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This discussion centers on the physics of human running speed and the potential for a hypothetical bipedal machine to exceed current limits. The world record for human running speed is approximately 10 m/s, with discussions suggesting that, under ideal conditions, speeds could reach up to 40 m/s. Key factors influencing running speed include biomechanics, posture, and environmental conditions. The conversation also touches on the physics of impact forces, with elite boxers capable of generating peak forces around 4000 to 5000 N with a punch.

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  • #31
I have a related question, realistically, how much acceleration could a human body provide? (Needed for dodge bullet equation.)
 
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  • #32
Jiku Araiguma said:
Which is more aerodynamic, sharp edges or curves?

You probably want curved surfaces, as you can shape them to minimize various types of turbulence, vortices, etc. Curved surfaces also withstand debris impacts better than a sharp edge does.

GTOM said:
I have a related question, realistically, how much acceleration could a human body provide? (Needed for dodge bullet equation.)

Your question is a bit vague, but an olympic sprinter's acceleration for the first 10 meters of a 100 meter race is around 3 m/s2. The acceleration of a hand or a foot would be greater than that.
 
  • #33
Drakkith said:
You probably want curved surfaces, as you can shape them to minimize various types of turbulence, vortices, etc. Curved surfaces also withstand debris impacts better than a sharp edge does.
Your question is a bit vague, but an olympic sprinter's acceleration for the first 10 meters of a 100 meter race is around 3 m/s2. The acceleration of a hand or a foot would be greater than that.
Thanks, although i wonder. If humán body can't produce more than 10 m/s2 how can it jump? Or perpendicular to a surface is a better case for gaining momentum?
 
  • #34
GTOM said:
Thanks, although i wonder. If humán body can't produce more than 10 m/s2 how can it jump? Or perpendicular to a surface is a better case for gaining momentum?

Jumping is not running. For one, you can use both legs at the same time when jumping, whereas in running only one leg provides acceleration at a time. Also, peak acceleration is probably larger than 3 m/s2 when the runner initially starts running. I'm not sure how much larger though.
 
  • #35
Now, I need some thoughts on punch/impact physics. How many ways are there to produce 4000N of force with a single punch? How fast would a normal fist be going? How big/small would a fist have to be to cause damage at that force? How much damage would be caused?
 
  • #36
Jiku Araiguma said:
Now, I need some thoughts on punch/impact physics. How many ways are there to produce 4000N of force with a single punch?

Peak force? Average force? Elite boxers can generate a maximum peak force of about 4000 to 5000 N, so that gives you an idea of what kind of level you need to be at.

Jiku Araiguma said:
How fast would a normal fist be going?

That depends on how heavy the person's fist is and how long it takes to decelerate it during impact, which depends on several other variables, so I don't really know. A fast boxer punch ranges somewhere around 20-30 mph, though.

Jiku Araiguma said:
How big/small would a fist have to be to cause damage at that force?

Just about any sized first can cause damage when you're exerting a force of 4,000 N on a portion of someone's face, head, and body.

Jiku Araiguma said:
How much damage would be caused?

That depends almost entirely upon where the blow struck. Without a glove, a punch like this can easily cause a concussion, break bones, and knock out teeth. Just look at the injuries punches cause in boxing or other martial arts.
 

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