Dot Product and Perpendicularity

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving that two vectors A and B are perpendicular given the equation |A+B|^2=|A|^2+|B|^2. The subject area includes vector mathematics and properties of the dot product.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore expanding the left-hand side of the equation and relate it to the right-hand side. There is confusion about the correct application of the dot product and the implications of the resulting equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and corrections. Some have suggested starting with the left-hand side of the equation, while others are questioning the significance of certain expressions derived from the dot product. There is a recognition of the importance of the dot product being zero as a potential indicator of perpendicularity.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of participants feeling overwhelmed by homework load and confusion about the problem's requirements. Some participants have expressed frustration with navigating multiple threads on the same topic.

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Homework Statement



If |A+B|^2=|A|^2+|B|^2, prove that A is perpendicular to B.


Homework Equations



A^2=|A||A|

The Attempt at a Solution



All I can think of to do is expand the equation to get (A.B)(A.B)=A.A+B.B. I know that iff a.b=0, the two are perpendicular but I can't figure out how to show that because I don't really even understand what the question is asking. I'm in desperate need of some help!
 
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As said before, start with the LHS, not the RHS. Your approach uses the RHS. What is another way of writing |A+B|^2 using the dot product?
 
Does it involve taking the square root of both sides?
 
Nope, not at all.
 
Yes, I just tried it and it was definitely the wrong idea. When you say I need to begin with the LHS, though, do you mean I need to write it out like (A.B)(A.B) to obtain 2AB? If that's not it, could you give me a hint to get me going in the right direction?
 
Wait, 2AB is the wrong thing, I looked at the something else I'd written down that looked similar. The dot product there would be 2A+2B, right?
 
Well I gave you a hint in the other thread. This is the third thread with the same question. You ought to stick to one thread and certainly only one forum. [tex]|A|^2 = \mathbf{A} \cdot \mathbf{A}[/tex]
 
|A+B|^2 is NOT equal to (A.B)^2.

Try letting C = A+B. Then what is |C|^2?
 
oh, whoops, I messed that last thing up entirely. I'm way too tired, this prof gave way too much homework tonight. I didn't think to use a third variable, that seems like a good idea. defennder, you said to begin with the LHS so I thought that |A|^2=A.A wouldn't yet be relevant.


also, defennder: someone moved my first post to a different forum, so I couldn't find it and reposted it in another one. then I had so many questions in the thread that I thought it'd be less intimidating and I'd get more answers if I asked just the one question. sorry! patience is a virtue god failed to give me. =)
 
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I keep coming back to the fact that 0=2AB. I'm not sure if this has any significance, but if I multiply out |A+B|^2 I get A^2+2AB+B^2, and if I set that equal to the RHS and simplify, I get 2AB=0.
 
  • #11
no, that seems like it would prove the two are NOT perpendicular. why is this so hard for me?
 
  • #12
actually, it was the right train of thought, am I right that 2(A.B)=0 is significant?
 
  • #13
Yes. What does it mean if the dot product between two vectors is zero?
 
  • #14
that they are perpendicular! I think I've finally got a viable proof--thank you both so much for your help! now it is off to bed for a couple hours before class starts... good night!
 

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