Double integration problem for IDSFT

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The discussion revolves around the inverse 2D Discrete Space Fourier Transform (DSFT) of a given sequence, where participants are tasked with determining the original sequence from its Fourier transform representation. The problem involves evaluating a double integral defined by the inverse DSFT formula.

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  • Participants explore the evaluation of the double integral for each term of the Fourier transform, questioning the correctness of their results, particularly when they arrive at zero. There is discussion about the implications of the results and confusion regarding the behavior of certain terms in the context of the inverse transform.

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Some participants have provided detailed attempts at evaluating the integral for each term, while others express confusion about the results. A realization has been noted regarding the behavior of the sinc function, indicating a potential shift in understanding. However, there is no explicit consensus on the overall correctness of the approaches taken.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is an ongoing examination of assumptions related to the properties of the Fourier transform and the evaluation of integrals.

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Homework Statement


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The 2D Discrete Space Fourier transform (DSFT) X(w1,w2) of the sequence x(n1,n2) is given by,

$$X(w_1,w_2) = 5 + 2j sin(w_2) + cos(w_1) + 2e^{(-jw1-jw2)}$$

determine x(n1,n2)

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By definition inverse DSFT is,

$$x(n_1,n_2) = \dfrac{1}{(2π)^2} \int_{-π}^{π}\int_{-π}^{π} X(w_1,w_2) e^{(jw_1n_1+jw_2n_2)} dw_1dw_2$$

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I got zero as a final answer.

Solving the double integral for each term I get zero when substituting pi, is it correct or did I made a mistake somewhere, what gets me confused is that when doing DSFT for some simple problem I can get cos(w1) for example but if I did the inverse DSFT I will get zero. can someone help.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Kurd said:
I got zero as a final answer
Please post your working.
 
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Taking each term,

$$X_1(w_1,w_2) = 5$$
$$X_2(w_1,w_2) = 2jsin(w_2)$$
$$X_3(w_1,w_2) = cos(w_1)$$
$$X_4(w1,w2) = 2e^{(-jw_1-jw_2)}$$

then,

$$ x_1(n_1,n_2) = \dfrac{5}{(2π)^2} \int_{-π}^{π}\int_{-π}^{π} e^{jw_1n_1+jw_2n_2} dw_1dw_2$$
$$x_1(n_1,n_2) = \dfrac{5}{(2π)^2} \int_{-π}^{π}e^{jw_2n_2}[ \int_{-π}^{π} e^{jw_1n_1} dw_1]dw_2$$
$$x_1(n_1,n_2) = \dfrac{5}{(2π)^2} \int_{-π}^{π}e^{jw_2n_2} [\dfrac{e^{jw_1n_1}}{jn_1}]_{-π}^{π} dw_2$$
$$x_1(n_1,n_2) = \dfrac{5}{(2π)^2} \int_{-π}^{π}e^{jw_2n_2} [\dfrac{1}{jn_1}(e^{jπn_n1} - e^{-jπn_1})] dw_2$$

since n1 and n2 are discrete, then
$$(e^{jπn_1} - e^{-jπn_1})] = cos(jπn_1) + jsin(jπn_1) - cos(-jπn_1) + jsin(-jπn_1) = 0$$

I solved the remaining terms in a similar fashion, do you find anything wrong here.
 
Ok I got it.

I didn't notice that

$$\dfrac{sin(πn_1)}{πn_1}$$

which is a sinc function and equals 1 at n1 = 0.
 
Kurd said:
Ok I got it.

I didn't notice that

$$\dfrac{sin(πn_1)}{πn_1}$$

which is a sinc function and equals 1 at n1 = 0.
Well done.
 

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