Dover Books on (insert subject) Lack of Use

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The discussion revolves around the reasons why Dover Books are not more widely utilized as primary or secondary course texts in colleges and universities, particularly in the context of mathematics and physics. Participants explore various factors influencing the adoption of these texts, including their content, pricing, and pedagogical relevance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the lack of use of Dover Books as primary texts, suggesting that price and the number of examples might be factors.
  • Another participant notes that while they own many Dover books, they have not found them to be superior to modern teaching textbooks.
  • It is mentioned that Dover Books tend to be older classics, which may not reflect recent advancements in fields and methodologies.
  • A participant shares their experience using a Dover book in a specific course, indicating that the course was eclectic and not centered around a single textbook.
  • Reference is made to a specific course at Yale that uses a Dover book, highlighting an instance of its application in academia.
  • One participant asserts that while Dover Books are good for self-study, they lack modernization in pedagogy, which may hinder their use in formal education.
  • Another participant expresses concern that some advanced undergraduate texts from Dover may be too rigorous for contemporary students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the utility of Dover Books, with some acknowledging their value for self-study while others critique their relevance and pedagogical approach. There is no clear consensus on whether these books should be more widely adopted as course texts.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations such as the age of the texts, potential gaps in examples, and the evolving nature of educational methodologies, which may affect the applicability of Dover Books in current curricula.

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Why don't more colleges/universities utilize Dover Books as course texts? The books I've used for self-study, review, and as a supplemental text are more than suffeccient primary text in my mind. I've come up with a few reasons why the books may not be utilized as primary course text...such as price (big schools want publishers to get big money) and lack of examples (in some cases). Has anyone ever been required to use a Dover Book as a primary text (undergraduate or graduate)? How about as a secondary text?

Question just came to mind this morning when I was going over some integration stuff.
 
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Good question. I've never used a Dover book as a primary text, and only a few times was one recommended for supplimental material. I do own many because I just can't resist a good book at a good price.

Personally, I've never seen a Dover book that would be a better text than the best modern teaching textbooks. However, I have to believe that examples could be found.

One key point is that the Dover books tend to be older classics and many fields/subjects have made significant advancements in applications and methodology.
 
I have used in QM2 Messiah's textbook, but the course itself is quite eclectic and not given from one textbook. (and if I may add the course was quite a mess, and I hope to get better grade in the summer second chance exam).
 
At Yale, Math 260 (the second semester Mathematical Physics course) uses "Mathematics of Classical and Quantum Physics", a Dover book. by Byron Jr. and R. Fuller.
 
I used Special Functions by Lebedev in an advanced course when I was in school, it was and still is the best and most affordable book out there on the subject.
 
Most of the Dover books are not used due to a lack of modernization in pedagogy. They are good for self-studying though.
 
I was taking a look at some of the advanced undergraduate text on Dover's website and some of them may be too rigorous for today's students.
 

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