Drag Force at very very high Renolds Number ?

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The discussion revolves around the expression for drag force at very high Reynolds numbers, specifically those exceeding 10^6. Participants explore the validity of existing drag force equations and the complexities involved in calculating drag in various scenarios, including specific examples like a sphere moving at high speed.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the applicability of the drag force equation 0.5kpAv^2 for Reynolds numbers greater than 10^5, suggesting it may not be valid in those regimes.
  • Another participant argues that there is no general equation for drag applicable at all Reynolds numbers, emphasizing that the drag coefficient can vary significantly based on environmental conditions and geometries.
  • A specific example is presented involving a sphere with a radius of 0.1 m moving at 100 m/sec, resulting in a Reynolds number of 10^7, prompting a request for the appropriate drag force expression in this context.
  • Participants discuss the trade-off between using simplified formulas for estimates versus more complex calculations that account for pressure drag and viscous drag, depending on the desired accuracy.
  • One participant challenges the assertion that the drag force equation is invalid for Reynolds numbers above 10^5, stating that it remains valid as long as the drag coefficient is known.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the drag force equation at high Reynolds numbers, with no consensus reached on a definitive expression for drag force in such conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to calculate drag in high Reynolds number scenarios.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the dependence of drag calculations on specific conditions, such as the geometry of the object and the flow environment, indicating that assumptions and definitions play a significant role in the discussion.

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What is the expression for Drag Force at very very High Renolds Number flow (>10^6)
as we know the expression
for drag force between Re1 and Re10^5 = 0.5kpAv^2
but this isn't valid aft 10^5 ..
so ...
 
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There isn't any general equation for drag at any value of Reynolds number to be honest. Even the equation you quoted depends on a a coefficient that varies wildly for different environments and geometries.

Let me instead pose this question: what exactly is the situation that you are in? What are the details of the system? How high do you consider "very very high," because 10^6 is actually pretty low for quite a few situations.
 
as in let's take an example for a sphere of radius 0.1 m moking with the speed of 100 m/sec
Renolds = pv/viscosity which gives 10^7

so what wud be the drag force calculating expression for this situation
 
It depends on how accurate you want to be. You could use the old formula for a ballpark estimate, or you could go through the long, complicated process of finding pressure drag including the separated regions and viscous drag. It all depends on what you want.
 
sunnyguha said:
for drag force between Re1 and Re10^5 = 0.5kpAv^2
but this isn't valid aft 10^5 ..
so ...

Since when is this not valid for Re > 10^5?

As long as you know your drag coefficient this equation is completely valid.
 

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