Drag force of a spherical BB ammo under water

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The discussion revolves around the drag force experienced by spherical BB ammunition when shot into water. The original poster attempts to calculate the drag coefficient and its relationship with velocity, using experimental data collected from a video recording of the BB's motion underwater.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of drag force using the drag equation and question the validity of the Reynolds number calculated by the original poster. There is also a consideration of whether Stokes' Law applies given the low Reynolds number.

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Some participants have offered skepticism regarding the Reynolds number and have prompted the original poster to clarify the context of the experiment. The original poster has expressed urgency in seeking help and has indicated a reliance on assumptions that may need reevaluation.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions constraints related to submission deadlines and a desire to focus solely on the drag experienced by the BB after it enters the water, while attempting to disregard other factors such as cavitation.

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Basically, BB ammos were shot from an airsoft gun into a water filled tank. The experiment was recorded using a video camera. I can calculate the approximate instantaneous velocity of the bullet under water at a given time using Logger Pro.

1. Relevant equations

Drag force = 0.5 ρAC0v2

2. Homework Statement I have kept the density of water, ρ and the reference area, A constant.
ρ of water = 997kg/m3
A = ∏ rsq. ( r = 0.003 m)
I want to calculate Coefficient of drag of a spherical ammo to find a relationship between velocity and drag coefficient.
Secondly, the velocity of the BB ammos under water that I calculated using Logger Pro indicates a very low velocity of about 0.7-3m/s (0.2 seconds after under water). The Reynolds number comes to about 0.03

The Attempt at a Solution


I have searched online and found that the theoretical drag coefficient of a spherical object should be 0.47.
The low Reyonlds Number indicates that the drag coefficient is not constant.
I am facing difficulty because I have two unknown variables, Drag force and Cd.

Another question: Can the drag force be calculated by Mass * deceleration.
I know the mass to be 0.12g and can calculate the deceleration of the bullet...

I am also not sure if Strokes Law may apply to this experiment because the Reynolds number is really low.
 
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The context of your question is difficult to decipher.

Is this just a make-believe homework problem where we are to pretend no cavitation is involved or is it more realistic?

Was there a real experiment? Was there cavitation?
 
Real experiment. For my Independent research lab for IB Physics HL.

Yes there was cavitation-if u mean splash. But I am trying to ignore the physics of the bullet before or at the point of striking water. I want to concentrate only at the time when the bullet enters water and experiences drag.

I am kind of late for submittal so I don't want to ask my teacher. I did most my lab writeup with the assumption that Force of drag is Mass*deceleration. But I just realized that is unlikely. Please help :)
 
I'm skeptical about your Reynolds number.

In SAE units at a speed of 1 m/s = 3.281 ft/sec:

Re = rho * D * V/mu = 62.4 * .177/12 * 3.28 * 3600/2.37 = 4586

Viscosity of saturated water at 70 F = 2.37 lbm/ft-hr
 
cavitation does not mean splash
 

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